Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

[DonTadow]

Peter possesses the one power?

Cool!

would that be the power to suck the complete life out of a trilogy?

 

[Grog]

As for the Haitian blocking Adam so that he can be killed, that only works as long as the Haitian is nearby. As soon as Adam (or Claire, or Peter) leave the Haitian's field the healing will kick in and they will come back to life. So to kill Adam the company would have too keep the Haitian dragging Adam's dead body at all times. Better to bury Adam alive in 30 feet of concrete.

But once Adam is dead, presumably his power would stop working. And if his regeneration would even work on his dead body and bring him back to life, all they'd have to do is kill him, then incinerate his body with the Haitian still in proximity.

Of course, your idea to bury him alive works, too.

 

[Vocenoctum]

The nuclear blast above the city is easy to explain away. How many of us really can tell the difference between an experimental millitary plane exploding and a small nuclear bomb.

And yet, apparently they saw NOTHING. The city WAS pretty empty that night though, so I suppose everyone was watching TV.

Considering I"m watching a show of prose, isn't everything a part of the plot or plot device? The problem i had was this show was that the story didn't do anything for me. An extended excape scene with peter and adam would have rocked or a more drawn out fight with DL. Instead both were wiped under the rug prety easily.

The problem is that it's being used as a Plot Device in a bad way. It's not an evolution of the story, it's just some ham-fisted device to smash the plot together. It reeks of poor writing/ plotting to me. If they can't think of any way to advance Nikki's character without saving & killing DL, then so be it.

To add, a bad Plot Device in this sense includes the lack of internal consistency for much of the powers. Hiro's time travel works only as the plot calls for it, the Haitian only blocks powers when powers need blocking. It's sloppy writing IMO.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I think it worked better mid season, AFTER the Kensei stuff.

Adam is just such a great character, and the reveal of him in the modern time, while expected, would have definitely been killed if done before the entire Kensei arc.

THink of it like this:
1) Hiro meets Kensei
2) Peter meets Adam
3) Hiro redeems Kensei
4) Peter & Adam escape to save the world and split up
5) Hiro pisses off Kensei, Kensei betrays him, Hiro blows Kensei up
6) Peter & Adam remeet. Adam "It's time to save the world..."

If done well, You'd believe Adam/kensei to be a "good guy" up until the turn, then the "save the world" bit becomes a bit more ominous.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I thought it was cool that the Haitian had a bit of natural whoop-ass. He man-handled Peter pretty easily hand-to-hand. If I were the Company, I'd make sure the Haitian was in the gym or the dojo every spare moment.

They could have used a nice explanation for the Haitian rejoining the company, but heck, still no explanation for Ma Petrelli's influence with the company, so who knows. Before this episode, it made perfect sense to me that he was in hiding from the company and they tracked him to Haiti when he had the virus.

In the same way, DL dying at the plaza fit perfectly fine, IMO. Bringing him back only to kill him was just bleh.

Hate to break ranks but I liked this episode, with the exception of DL getting punked.

I liked about 40% of the episode. Peter & Elle were fun enough, Adam was fun enough. Nikki/Geena was horrid, and the obvious plotholes and failures to answer were just too much of a drag. I still don't care about the Venezuala plotline, and the background was just bland.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

THink of it like this:
1) Hiro meets Kensei
2) Peter meets Adam
3) Hiro redeems Kensei
4) Peter & Adam escape to save the world and split up
5) Hiro pisses off Kensei, Kensei betrays him, Hiro blows Kensei up
6) Peter & Adam remeet. Adam "It's time to save the world..."

If done well, You'd believe Adam/kensei to be a "good guy" up until the turn, then the "save the world" bit becomes a bit more ominous.

While it would work, I don't think it would have nearly the same impact as doing the ENTIRE Kensei arc first, then leading up to where he is now. Seeing the character in both places wouldn't be terrible, but it would change how he's seen by the viewer a bit more than having one story go, then finish, then pick up in the present far after.

 

[WayneLigon]

To add, a bad Plot Device in this sense includes the lack of internal consistency for much of the powers. Hiro's time travel works only as the plot calls for it, the Haitian only blocks powers when powers need blocking. It's sloppy writing IMO.

These are people learning to use their abilities and - save for Peter's very brief tutelage - they have absolutely no way of knowing what they can do. They've repeatedly shown over and over again that power use is tied to emotional state - stress particularly can either activate an ability or shut it down. They've been perfectly consistant in that and most other things.

 

[ThirdWizard]

It was a nuclear explosion, there was an EMP.

As far as I know, it was not a nuclear explosion and there was no EMP. What, exactly, was fissioning?

 

[dravot]

My prediction: Sylar gets his powers back and kills Alejandro, taking his powers.

Sylar then saves NYC from the plague, redeeming himself and proving himself to be extraordinary, though I'll bet he dies in the process.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

As far as I know, it was not a nuclear explosion and there was no EMP. What, exactly, was fissioning?

Darned if I know. Where does Nathan get the energy to fly around at supersonic speed? But they keep saying it was an atomic explosion, and Ted killed his wife with radiation. Which, presumably, was what burned Claire and Nathan.