Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

GoodKingJayIII said:
Great episode. But did anyone else feel like this should've been the season 2 opener?
I think it worked better mid season, AFTER the Kensei stuff.

Adam is just such a great character, and the reveal of him in the modern time, while expected, would have definitely been killed if done before the entire Kensei arc.
 

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That wasn't a too bad episode... I enjoyed it well enough.

But Elle is very quickly becoming as annoying as Niki. Blech.
 

Dire Bare said:
Peter has manifested powers before, without being sure where he got them from. He can try to manifest powers he knows he should have, and he has also manifested powers due simply to need. Monroe and Peter had plenty of time to discuss their escape plans, and they might not have cared how Peter did it, only that he did . . . and that happened to be with DL's power.

We don't know what kind of resources Adam has available outside of OWI prison. He's immortal, and has had plenty of time to build up a fortune for himself, a la Connor/Duncan Mcleod style. And we weren't following Peter and Adam every minute since their escape, they had plenty of time to hit an ATM and purchase plane tickets.

Only time will tell (not much time, 3 episodes!!), but I don't think Bob and Adam are in cahoots. I think Bob is sincere, but misguided. I think Adam's vengeance against Hiro has grown to vengeance against the world. We'll see.

An alternative explanation - put forward on the Heroes 9th Wonders Forums is that Adam has indeed had help and it IS a set-up - but the help did not come from Bob. Adam's help comes from a traitor within the Company: Elle. She is still very much involved emotionally with Adam.

It is Elle who provides the plane ticket to Adam and otherwise tells Adam the things he needs to know in order to manipulate Peter and put his plan into motion.

I think this fits the facts better and is a simpler explanation then Bob being a mole. Elle has already been presented as a villain and as an unstable personality.

Occam's razor: this works.
 

It was good and bad, mostly good, but the one thing I wanted was an explanation of how Sylar got out of Kriby Plaza. No luck there, and to be honest it was the one thing I really wanted to see.
 

Steel_Wind said:
I was a little more disturbed by their putting Peter and Adam, side-by- side, with a way to communicate.

I have no doubt that Adam was manipulating the situation with Peter; and we know that Bob will manipulate when he has to.

How is it that Peter was aware he could walk through a wall? He should not have known. How is it that Adam could have known to be able to persuade him to try to walk through a wall - without knowing about DL? And how does he know about that - locked up in a cage? Too cozy.

The question is: were Adam and Bob in on Peter's manipulation together? Was that their plan all along?

Elle and her personal violet wand was amusing I suppose, but she managed to be hot - and creepy - at the same time.

There's no doubt in my mind that this is all part of a larger manipulation, for what purpose I don't know.

I agree, DL's death was dumb, but even dumber, if you can fly, and you're being chased by a guy who can't, why not just fly away, instead of running through a dock full of shipping containers? You could beat Adam to Montreal, instead of being mind-wiped and shipped off to Ireland.

As for Elle, yup, creepy and hot. But not as creepy as Claire's boyfriend, or as hot as Ali Larter, who I could watch read the newspaper for an hour.
 

Remus Lupin said:
I agree, DL's death was dumb, but even dumber, if you can fly, and you're being chased by a guy who can't, why not just fly away, instead of running through a dock full of shipping containers?
Do we know the range limit of the Haitian's powers? I assumed he was blocking all of Peter's abilities.
 

One thing that bugged me - Adam said that the company couldn't kill him. But we know that the Haitian can block people's powers, so they could just bring the Haitian in and then kill him.

As for the rest.... I really have to give props to Ali Larter. So far, all of Niki's personalities have been different - the way they stand, the way they move, etc. She's done a great job with the different roles.

And I agree with the people saying that the Haitian mindwiping Peter was just stupid, and only done as a plot device.
 

Several people said Peter could have used "insert" power after the breakout. Do remember that Peter was still under the effects of the drugs and was having a hard time trying to figure out some way of breaking out of the cell with the one power.

Heck, if he had full control he could have teleported to montreal.
 

Fast Learner said:
Do we know the range limit of the Haitian's powers? I assumed he was blocking all of Peter's abilities.
Well, he didn't do the same with Nathan, who flew away when he and HRG tried to abduct him back in season 1. So it seems there's a lot of inconsistency surrounding the Haitian's power.
 

Grog said:
One thing that bugged me - Adam said that the company couldn't kill him. But we know that the Haitian can block people's powers, so they could just bring the Haitian in and then kill him.
As far as we know, the company considers Adam to be "mutant 0" so they most likely keep him alive just to study him and test the limits of their power nullification drugs.


Grog said:
Well, he didn't do the same with Nathan, who flew away when he and HRG tried to abduct him back in season 1. So it seems there's a lot of inconsistency surrounding the Haitian's power.

Not really, remember the Haitian is loyal to Ms. Patrelli so its possible he let Nathan escape then willingly dampened Peter's powers so he could knock Peter out then smuggle him out of New York.
 
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