Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

fba827 said:
She commented that she burned down her grandmother's house about X (I didn't hear the number) years ago. IF (and a big if) we draw a couple extra lines, could she be Claire's half-sister (same mother, different father) or cousin (Claire's real mom is a sister to one of Elle's parents). And then Elle would have been adopted by Bob the same way HRG adopted Claire... I know it's reading a lot into the one sentence... but the thing about 'big fire' just seemed to stick in my head. ?

A cool idea, but I don't think so. While Claire would be the right age for that, it'd be Elle's mother's house, not her grandmother's. Also, there would have been something about it in the obituary Claire found (listing just her and her mother in the fire), and her mom and Nathan would have at least mentioned it. It also seems like they explained that fire as being the fault of Firemommy, anyway. Cool theory though.
 

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Steel_Wind said:
How is it that Adam could have known to be able to persuade him to try to walk through a wall - without knowing about DL? And how does he know about that - locked up in a cage? Too cozy.

I think Adam's knowledge can be explained by the fact that there was at least a month for Peter to tell Adam...everything. Course, doesn't say much about Peter knowing about DL's power, but hey, little things like that don't really bother me.

Overall, I liked the episode.

If anything, it just solidified to me how much I miss DL. His whole hero thing this episode was great and I'm sorry he had to die, even though we knew it was coming.
 

Well now Peter can take Sylar out in any fight he wants to.

So was Peter ever any closer to DL then when they were in the Plaza? If so then Peter should also have access to the Walker System anytime he wants. (Plus he also has transmute metals as well thanks to Bob).
 

The thing that got me was that someone (Bob?) said that there was no mention of the 'incident in the plaza'. Bull! There were cops all over the place. Therefore: There would be reporters all over the place reporting live! And they didn't say a thing about the atomic blast. Right, the whole city and half the state saw it, plus the EMP, and there was no mention of it anywhere? Not unless the Haitian was real busy!
 

Brown Jenkin said:
Well now Peter can take Sylar out in any fight he wants to.

So was Peter ever any closer to DL then when they were in the Plaza? If so then Peter should also have access to the Walker System anytime he wants. (Plus he also has transmute metals as well thanks to Bob).

No. Kirby Plaza is the only time Peter is close to DL and Nikki. He uses Nikki's super strength almost immediately. But he had no idea DL had a power or what it was. No way does he know that.

And neither should Adam Monroe. There was nothing Peter could have told Adam Monroe that would have enlightened him on DL's power - or that Peter now had it. Not a single thing. No way - no how. He should not have known that he could be taken through walls with the power along with Peter either. But he did. He knew to touch Peter - not the other way around.

Adam got that info from the same place that he got the plane ticket. He got it from Bob. Oh - you missed that part in the hurly burly? Adam just happened to have a plane ticket to Montreal? What - was it a thirty year old "open ticket"? WTF??

The whole thing was a set-up. Adam and Bob are working together and this has all been an elaborate set-up to manipulate Peter in to doing something he really shouldn't be doing.

Peter isn't going to save the world - he's going to doom it.

HRG was right; Mohinder was wrong.

Moreover, if Adam's blood can save Nathan - then Claire's blood can save HRG. HRG has a date with a bullet - but he isn't going to die from it.
 
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Steel_Wind said:
No. Kirby Plaza is the only time Peter is close to DL and Nikki. He uses Nikki's super strength almost immediately. But he had no idea DL had a power or what it was. No way does he know that.
Peter has manifested powers before, without being sure where he got them from. He can try to manifest powers he knows he should have, and he has also manifested powers due simply to need. Monroe and Peter had plenty of time to discuss their escape plans, and they might not have cared how Peter did it, only that he did . . . and that happened to be with DL's power.

Adam got that info from the same place that he got the plane ticket. He got it from Bob. Oh - you missed that part in the hurly burly? Adam just happened to have a plane ticket to Montreal? What - was it a thirty year old "open ticket"? WTF??
We don't know what kind of resources Adam has available outside of OWI prison. He's immortal, and has had plenty of time to build up a fortune for himself, a la Connor/Duncan Mcleod style. And we weren't following Peter and Adam every minute since their escape, they had plenty of time to hit an ATM and purchase plane tickets.

Only time will tell (not much time, 3 episodes!!), but I don't think Bob and Adam are in cahoots. I think Bob is sincere, but misguided. I think Adam's vengeance against Hiro has grown to vengeance against the world. We'll see.
 

DonTadow said:
This must be the writers way of getting back at us.
Huh? Why would the writers of Heroes need to "get back at us", the audience? That just makes no sense. Did we do something to the writers?

I'm sure the reshoots have everything to do with the current WGA strike, but it isn't the writer's changing things around, it's the producers doing it because the writers aren't writing any new episodes. Has nothing to do with "getting back" at the audience.
 

Ed_Laprade said:
The thing that got me was that someone (Bob?) said that there was no mention of the 'incident in the plaza'. Bull! There were cops all over the place. Therefore: There would be reporters all over the place reporting live! And they didn't say a thing about the atomic blast. Right, the whole city and half the state saw it, plus the EMP, and there was no mention of it anywhere? Not unless the Haitian was real busy!

That may indeed be an aspect of his power but we don't know; we didn't know for a fact until tonight that The Haitian can dampen powers but we've been shown this season that abilities grow and manifest in broader ways the more you practice.

But regarding the explosion, in an earlier Behind the Eclipse for this season, the writers said they'll get to explaining that very fact. Patience.
 

Dire Bare said:
Only time will tell (not much time, 3 episodes!!), but I don't think Bob and Adam are in cahoots. I think Bob is sincere, but misguided. I think Adam's vengeance against Hiro has grown to vengeance against the world. We'll see.

I have no doubt on the later. It's Bob I'm wondering about.

It may be that they are not working together and he got the info telepathically from Maury and the ticket it just a plot hole. But it is very, very odd.
 


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