Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#31)---11/12/07-'Four Months Ago'

[Vocenoctum]

I was very hyped for this episode, but now I feel kinda let down.

Why, for heaven's sake, did the Company put Peter right next to Adam? And no sound-proofing?

Plot Device

D.L.'s death was just dumb, I'm sorry. He can phase fast enough to avoid the punch to the head, but that guy put a gun to him, paused for just a moment, and then fired, and D.L. can't phase out in time? Honestly, I felt like that entire sequence was thoroughly unnecessary. Was it too much that he just died from being shot by Linderman?

Plot device, he somehow nearly died, but then within a couple months is an active duty fireman with no prior experience and something of a checkered background. This is all so that Nikki can be responsible for his death, and give us more angst. They had to reverse the "win" of last season's finale finally having Nikki get over herself so they could retread the same ground.

This does seem to point to Jessica being a real personality rather than a souljumping sister.

Elle's character was a bit over the top, but I still really like her. She's a comic book-style villainess, after all, and they are a little over the top.

Elle was fun enough.

Altogether, I just kind of expected more ground-breaking revelations, but this felt exactly like what it was; a recap of events, with no greater purpose than to answer the questions we already have, while not presenting any new surprises.

I figured this episode would be that Baseline I've been waiting for. It'd explain some of the backstory and weave the disparate parts into a whole that made former plotholes make sense.

Instead, the nuclear blast is written off, so I guess we're to believe The Company can simply wipe all memory of a nuclear blast out of worldwide records. Peter/Nathan's save was just pointless and drab.

Maybe Ma Petrelli was just lying, and Nathan is a simpering fool, but why tell him they searched the water? Does that make sense on any level?

"There was a nuclear blast above the city, but no one noticed. They were busy randomly searching the water for your brother."

I will say this though, Customs in Ireland must suck:

I wonder if they'll reveal who lied about them being iPod's to incite the robbery.

I mean, the Haitian is the only one that knew he was in there. Someone arranged to ship the container, no one having looked inside, ever.

Why did the Haitian strip Peters memory again? He deserved to forget all the dangerous powers he wields?

Oh, right, Plot Device.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Elle made a statement that I don't know whether I was reading too much in to or not -- anyone who is good on the show's timeline want to chime in ...

She commented that she burned down her grandmother's house about X (I didn't hear the number) years ago. IF (and a big if) we draw a couple extra lines, could she be Claire's half-sister (same mother, different father) or cousin (Claire's real mom is a sister to one of Elle's parents). And then Elle would have been adopted by Bob the same way HRG adopted Claire... I know it's reading a lot into the one sentence... but the thing about 'big fire' just seemed to stick in my head. ?


any thoughts or anyone catch that line a bit more closely than i did?

Elle is 24 (IIRC) and said that was when she was 6, I think. Then 8 was when she went "inside". So, 18 years ago. I think Claire is 17ish, so the timing is probably a little off, so I'd say coincidence.

But, that said "burned her grandmothers house", doesn't mean her grandmother lived there. Claire's mom's apartment was the building of Isaac's Loft, wasn't it? (Or did they just meet on the roof?)

I'd say odds are good someone in The Company owns that building, though I'll chalk up The Resused Set as a Plot Device also.

 

[Relique du Madde]

I wonder if they'll reveal who lied about them being iPod's to incite the robbery.

I mean, the Haitian is the only one that knew he was in there. Someone arranged to ship the container, no one having looked inside, ever.

Why did the Haitian strip Peters memory again? He deserved to forget all the dangerous powers he wields?

Oh, right, Plot Device.

Maybe because Peter was about to mess up two grand schemes (HGR's scheme to take down the company and Mrs. Patrellis own scheme to save Peter) and had to erase his memory so that he wouldn't get himself killed or recaptured by the Company.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I liked it; confirmed a number of thoughts I had. Elle is just hot!

 

[Taelorn76]

Elle made a statement that I don't know whether I was reading too much in to or not -- anyone who is good on the show's timeline want to chime in ...

Spoiler

She commented that she burned down her grandmother's house about X (I didn't hear the number) years ago. IF (and a big if) we draw a couple extra lines, could she be Claire's half-sister (same mother, different father) or cousin (Claire's real mom is a sister to one of Elle's parents). And then Elle would have been adopted by Bob the same way HRG adopted Claire... I know it's reading a lot into the one sentence... but the thing about 'big fire' just seemed to stick in my head. ?

any thoughts or anyone catch that line a bit more closely than i did?

To continue this theory.
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Claire was an infant when the fire happened. Elle said she was six. Claire is 17/18, Elle is 24. That is a six year difference.

Another note that there might be a connection, in the previews we see Claire and Elle are being exchanged by Bob and HRG.[/sblock]

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Great episode. But did anyone else feel like this should've been the season 2 opener?

 

[DonTadow]

Plot Device


Plot device, he somehow nearly died, but then within a couple months is an active duty fireman with no prior experience and something of a checkered background. This is all so that Nikki can be responsible for his death, and give us more angst. They had to reverse the "win" of last season's finale finally having Nikki get over herself so they could retread the same ground.

This does seem to point to Jessica being a real personality rather than a souljumping sister.


Elle was fun enough.


I figured this episode would be that Baseline I've been waiting for. It'd explain some of the backstory and weave the disparate parts into a whole that made former plotholes make sense.

Instead, the nuclear blast is written off, so I guess we're to believe The Company can simply wipe all memory of a nuclear blast out of worldwide records. Peter/Nathan's save was just pointless and drab.

Maybe Ma Petrelli was just lying, and Nathan is a simpering fool, but why tell him they searched the water? Does that make sense on any level?

"There was a nuclear blast above the city, but no one noticed. They were busy randomly searching the water for your brother."


I wonder if they'll reveal who lied about them being iPod's to incite the robbery.

I mean, the Haitian is the only one that knew he was in there. Someone arranged to ship the container, no one having looked inside, ever.

Why did the Haitian strip Peters memory again? He deserved to forget all the dangerous powers he wields?

Oh, right, Plot Device.

The nuclear blast above the city is easy to explain away. How many of us really can tell the difference between an experimental millitary plane exploding and a small nuclear bomb. ]

Considering I"m watching a show of prose, isn't everything a part of the plot or plot device? The problem i had was this show was that the story didn't do anything for me. An extended excape scene with peter and adam would have rocked or a more drawn out fight with DL. Instead both were wiped under the rug prety easily.

 

[Ruined]

Given all of the family ties they've pushed on us this season, has anyone theorized that D.L. may also be part of a bloodline? If he were a descendant of Deveaux (Simone's father) having something like his dreamlike powers could make for a few more appearances by the actor.

 

[Hand of Evil]

As to the exploding Peter above New York, I remember a number of years ago a fireball moving across the east coast and it only had minor air time, explained away as a metorite. There have been others.

The same could be done for this.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Peter should realize now he has the power dampening and the mind wipe abilities.

That doesn't work. If the Haitian is dampening Peter's power, Peter can't ever pick it up.

I thought it was cool that the Haitian had a bit of natural whoop-ass. He man-handled Peter pretty easily hand-to-hand. If I were the Company, I'd make sure the Haitian was in the gym or the dojo every spare moment.

Hate to break ranks but I liked this episode, with the exception of DL getting punked.