D&D 4E Hey everyone! If you're tired of 4e threads cluttering the forum...

[Jawar]

4E will be announced, sooner or later.
The amount of material for 3.5 has reached a point no edition has, with much more suplements than any previous one. And people are complaining all over the boards about the amount of material published.

Remember when 3E designers at WotC told the public that the new 3E was going to be a game made by gamers, for gamers, and that the spamming of modules in 2E was never going to be? Well, that seems more to me like politicians crap:
They promise you something that you value. And, in a few years they will comply with what they promised.
Simply put, either they did not believe it in the first place, or, as a lot of good intentioned people, they are simply chewed by the market laws - and loose their initial dream.

In 4E we shall see something like it.

 

[Maggan]

4E will be announced, sooner or later.
The amount of material for 3.5 has reached a point no edition has, with much more suplements than any previous one. And people are complaining all over the boards about the amount of material published.

It's statements like that that draw me into 4e threads. Against my better judgement, I rush in to point out that 3e still has a long way to go before reaching the sheer mass of 2e product released, let alone the books for 3.5e. My 3.x library just recently overtook my 2e library, and I don't have a tenth of what was released for 2e. I have all books for 3e.

Also, it should be noted that the same few people are complaining all over the board, creating an impression of wide spread discontent. Check the poll about buying 4e. Most people will buy it, or consider buying it depending on needs and quality.

But as I said, it is against my better judgement, and I have realised that I don't have to rush in. And the best way to let 4e threads drift off from the front page is by not posting in them, which is the strategy I will adopt from now on.

/M

 

[GeorgeFields]

Remember when 3E designers at WotC told the public that the new 3E was going to be a game made by gamers, for gamers, and that the spamming of modules in 2E was never going to be? Well, that seems more to me like politicians crap:
They promise you something that you value. And, in a few years they will comply with what they promised.

How many of that original design team are still there?

 

[DaveyJones]

How many of that original design team are still there?

n > 1

a few of them are still there.

 

[Jawar]

My 3.x library just recently overtook my 2e library, and I don't have a tenth of what was released for 2e. I have all books for 3e.
/M

Really? I believe that 3.x had already overtaken 2E in material, by large.
Still, I have not checked the whole numbers, so I could be wrong.

Nevertheless, our group will move to 4E when it comes out.

PS: I feel that the present climate in these 4E boards is somewhat restraining me from further posts on the subject. So, in spite of the some interest in the subject, I'm not feeling comfortable in readressing it.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Sorry.

 

[Umbran]

Gotta love the irony of not being able to talk about a book that doesnt exist in a forum all about elves, demons and orcs

We will repeat, again, because obviously it is not getting through:

It is okay to talk about 4e.

It is not okay to start lots of threads griping about how many threads are talking about 4e.

Propagating inaccurate information about the policy will only end in tears, so please don't do it. Thank you.

 

[dcas]

Really? I believe that 3.x had already overtaken 2E in material, by large.
Still, I have not checked the whole numbers, so I could be wrong.

I guess it depends on whether one includes d20 material and still-mostly-compatible 3.0 material in one's count. There's no doubt that TSR released more material for 2e than WOTC has released for 3.5 -- but in the former case TSR was virtually the only company releasing such material (there's a fair number of Mayfair Games titles released in that time period, though) while in the latter case WOTC is not even publishing the majority of 3.5/D20 material.

 

[NiTessine]

Really? I believe that 3.x had already overtaken 2E in material, by large.
Still, I have not checked the whole numbers, so I could be wrong.

Nevertheless, our group will move to 4E when it comes out.

PS: I feel that the present climate in these 4E boards is somewhat restraining me from further posts on the subject. So, in spite of the some interest in the subject, I'm not feeling comfortable in readressing it.

There are only a bit over a hundred different 3E products from Wizards, and that's counting stuff like map packs and DM screens. As it stands, the mass of titles released for 3E stands roughly equal to the amount of 2E Forgotten Realms products. I am not sure how the content is spread over the different editions, but products for OD&D, 1E and 2E combined number over 600 titles. Throw in the periodicals and you'll be not much shy of a thousand.

Remember, one of the reasons TSR perished was that they made too many releases for too small audiences. The AD&D fanbase was fragmented into smaller bits, with each one getting their very own, unprofitable product line. So, there's a lot of stuff out there.

However, if you were speaking of the full volume of D20 products, you're probably right.

 

[Piratecat]

With all due respect, Pirate Cat, and seriously, do you mean no more 4E speculation posts, or no more "No more 4E posts, pleeeeeeze!"?

As other folks have commented, please reread the first post in this thread! I don't think it said what you think it said.

Use good judgment when starting new threads, but 4e threads are fine; we expect to see them. But if you want to complain about them, don't start a new thread to do so. Use this one.