Holiday Present - The Elf PHB entry

[pawsplay]

lol. Do you have trees in your yard? I have to go out every couple of days and clear the many many dead branches out of my front and back yards. If elves live in forests, they would have more than enough wood for arrows and bows.

Besides... it's not like they are shooting arrows all the time. Most of the arrows would be used in mundane hunting.

Plus, dead wood requires less curing.

 

[Remathilis]

I haven't even gotten started. I've just put on some old Rollins-era Black Flag, and now I'm really getting my hate on!

For instance, I didn't mention how much I HATE Tieflings as a core race. Or how much I HATE removing Gnomes from the PHB. Or how much I HATE the idea of a Golden Wyvern Adept. Screw it, I think I HATE just about everything that I've read about 4th edition, including the idea that a 4th Edition was needed at all.

That felt good.

Don't sugarcoat your feelings Clavis, tell us how you REALLY feel.

 

[The Ubbergeek]

You know, maybe it could be like in the Elder Scrolls serie - who have REALLY PoL wood elves...

The wood elves there have made a pact with nature... an hardcore one. They are wholly CARNIVOROUS, and use meat and other flesh and bone products for EVERYTHING, or so I heard.,.. They even 'brew' things from meat.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Don't sugarcoat your feelings Clavis, tell us how you REALLY feel.

Actually, don't.

Clavis, I understand that there is much that you don't like about 4e, but you don't need to tell us any more about it in this thread thanks.

By all means contribute thoughtfully though.

Thanks

 

[Scribble]

The article says "never cut a tree", but "never cut down a tree" would make more sense. I mean, don't you prune plants to keep them healthy?

In most cases, I believe that's only if you want to "interfere" with nature and keep them looking pretty for a longer period then they naturally would.

Perhaps the elves simply do not interfere with nature. At all.

 

[The Ubbergeek]

In most cases, I believe that's only if you want to "interfere" with nature and keep them looking pretty for a longer period then they naturally would.

Perhaps the elves simply do not interfere with nature. At all.

It could be, as I noted, the Elder Scrolls dark twist...

 

[mhacdebhandia]

But to be honest that why people play D&D they are looking for that Tolken'esk feel...

Whoa, now. That simply isn't true.

 

[Will]

Well, I really don't like rerolls, and I really REALLY don't like rerolls that can be lower than your original roll.

Aura; I hope it has an in-setting explanation. I also feel wary about it because while they've stated they are simplifying bonuses and such, it sounds very much otherwise. Still holding out hope, but it's thinning.

Put me in favor of race selection, culture selection, class selection; I'm disappointed to find out they aren't splitting out culture.

 

[The_Fan]

I'm somewhat surprised no one has mentioned the "elven Characteristics" section.

Is this just fluff? Or might there be some mechanical support for it, like choosing one or two characteristics and gtting a small bonus for it?

 

[Bishmon]

I'm somewhat surprised no one has mentioned the "elven Characteristics" section.

Is this just fluff? Or might there be some mechanical support for it, like choosing one or two characteristics and gtting a small bonus for it?

I'd imagine it's like what it was in the PHB2. That book had a number of different example character traits you could apply to your character. They were just suggestions designed to get people to think about their character's personality a bit more.

In that book, there was no mechanical benefit for it. And I hope for the love of all that is good they don't tie any mechanics into the characteristics in the 4E PHB because then it'll take all of a half-second for those to turn from 'suggestions to flesh out a personality' into 'ways to squeeze the most juice out of certain builds'.