Tony Vargas
Legend
It's not the character, but the cantrip, that's doing something it normally wouldn't - Its essentially metamagic.
D&D 5E Homebrew Marshal Class (+Thread)
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I don't have a problem with that. You might, and that's fair, but I'm pretty sanguine with the idea as a building block.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
@Fenris-77 okay. Maybe we can split them into two abilities? We already have guided strike allowing cantrips. Maybe a bonus action just says “when the ally next deals damage with a cantrip, XYZ”?
That costs 2 mettle to combine into a big off turn boom for the caster, but that’s no different than giving a weapon user an attack and an upgraded damage boost.
That costs 2 mettle to combine into a big off turn boom for the caster, but that’s no different than giving a weapon user an attack and an upgraded damage boost.
Tony Vargas
Legend
Don't get me wrong, it's a very cool idea, and I like it. It's just it would be perfect for a presumed magic oriented sub-class, and we haven't gotten to that, yet, so far it's just base class & Vanguard (presumably a Bravura, rather than an Iron Vanguard).
That's fair. I wasn't married to sticking it anywhere in particular personally. Even if we don't have a specifically magically oriented subclass, it might fit best in the lazylord full support subclass rather than as a standard class ability.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
What on earth is an Iron Vanguard?
And as ever, I don’t plan on worrying too much about emulating specific past classes or builds, but I’d be happy to see a list of some bravura powers that really drive home the “lead the attack” concept.
The guided strike allowing cantrips can be a full class ability. The elemental aura, whatever it ends up looking like might, and I agree with Tony, be better as a subclass ability. I was personally think that the cantrip cast would a complete action sacrifice, combined with the Marshal's BA, but that the effect could be sexy enough to make the cost worth spending in the right circumstance.
Tony Vargas
Legend
5e gave even the most-traditionally-mundane of all classes, the fighter, a wizardly archetype. I think, to really fit in with 5e, some sort of Arcane Battlemaster (that was even a warlord Path) or mage-captain, that learns some magic to better synergize with casters seems more than reasonable.
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Tony Vargas
Legend
Paragon Path, only prior use of Vangaurd the choice of name evoked.
I be ok with an arcane subclass, I think there's some very cool stuff we could do with that.
