Serpenteye
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Ooc: An interesting idea, Xael. Really devious. I won't respond to it IC, though, until some other players have expressed their oppinions. I don't want to move too fast.
House Millithor in the City of the Spider Queen
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Narcelia smiles at Quertus. "Your idea has merit. But what makes you think that all dwarves have this same code of honor? Perhaps that same code would require him to attempt escape also. While that would be amusing, it also would be rather a waste. And that is one thing we do not have time for, and cannot tolerate."
[OOC: I'll level Narcelia up in a little bit. I just returned from out of town.]
[OOC: I'll level Narcelia up in a little bit. I just returned from out of town.]
Thels
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"Heh, I'll never let go by a chance to humiliate a Dwarf...".
A little of Dariel's usual caution seems to be currently surpassed, as he seems eager to take on the challenge against any of the dwarves.
OOC: Dariel has Dwarves as favored enemy, and his hatred against them and willingness to fight and humiliate or kill them should be wellknown about the fellow housemembers.
A little of Dariel's usual caution seems to be currently surpassed, as he seems eager to take on the challenge against any of the dwarves.
OOC: Dariel has Dwarves as favored enemy, and his hatred against them and willingness to fight and humiliate or kill them should be wellknown about the fellow housemembers.
Serpenteye said:
"I apologise for not being clearer Matron, allow me to clarify. If I understand Lady Yssiriryl correctly, the loser of a duel and everything he carried into the ring with him belong to the victor. A victory need not end in the losers death. It would be child's play for either Dariel or Torellan to take one of the dwarves as our new slave. Serving us for the rest of his pathetic life seems only suitable given his offense. Even better should one of his less incompetent cousins take up the challenge instead.
Your idea has some merit Quertus, but forcing one of the dwarves into the ring via magical compulsion with this many witnesses could have unpleasant consequences. The honor of the dwarves will be their undoing though; they will be easily goaded into a fight."
Serpenteye
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ooc: I just remembered this whole "winner gets the loser" -rule. Ah, well, hmm.
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A hint of irritation, quickly surpressed, finds its way into her expression as she listens to Quertus' suggestion. Some of his thoughts have merit, but he's taking too much for granted. A dangerous habit, if allowed to continue unchecked. Narcelia's thoughts mirror her own and she smiles in approval at her daughter. Carcelon, perceptive as always, has seen to the heart of the matter. While Ki'Willis had allowed herself to dwell too deeply on the future she had failed to consider the potential value of those Dwarves, a foolish oversight in light of their current predicament. A note of anger, mostly at her own failure, rings in her cold voice.
We can hardly afford to be encumbered with untrained slaves in our destination. Only a creature of extreme honour and greater stupidity would allow itself to be bound so easily. I doubt those dregs are part of that exclusive club, paladins are quite rare in these parts of the world.
We can afford even less to needlesly make enemies here. We have nothing to gain by antagonizing Horlbar Steelshadow, and enslaving his servants trough magical compulsion would certainly risk offending him greatly. Dwarves have a strong sense of loyalty and would not lightly abandon one of their own. We must allow noone to doubt the legitimacy of our actions if we are to take them as our slaves. The slightest doubt could provoke a diplomatic incident.
We are in some need of gold, though, and dwarven loyalty could work in our favour. The fools are cursed with sentimentality and will likely pay a high price to regain their lost cousins. Xas, that will put us well on our way of regaining our position.
Dark amusement glints in her eyes as she smiles cruelly.
Dariel, you seem eager enough. Do as you wish, but leave the fools alive.
IC:
A hint of irritation, quickly surpressed, finds its way into her expression as she listens to Quertus' suggestion. Some of his thoughts have merit, but he's taking too much for granted. A dangerous habit, if allowed to continue unchecked. Narcelia's thoughts mirror her own and she smiles in approval at her daughter. Carcelon, perceptive as always, has seen to the heart of the matter. While Ki'Willis had allowed herself to dwell too deeply on the future she had failed to consider the potential value of those Dwarves, a foolish oversight in light of their current predicament. A note of anger, mostly at her own failure, rings in her cold voice.
We can hardly afford to be encumbered with untrained slaves in our destination. Only a creature of extreme honour and greater stupidity would allow itself to be bound so easily. I doubt those dregs are part of that exclusive club, paladins are quite rare in these parts of the world.
We can afford even less to needlesly make enemies here. We have nothing to gain by antagonizing Horlbar Steelshadow, and enslaving his servants trough magical compulsion would certainly risk offending him greatly. Dwarves have a strong sense of loyalty and would not lightly abandon one of their own. We must allow noone to doubt the legitimacy of our actions if we are to take them as our slaves. The slightest doubt could provoke a diplomatic incident.
We are in some need of gold, though, and dwarven loyalty could work in our favour. The fools are cursed with sentimentality and will likely pay a high price to regain their lost cousins. Xas, that will put us well on our way of regaining our position.
Dark amusement glints in her eyes as she smiles cruelly.
Dariel, you seem eager enough. Do as you wish, but leave the fools alive.
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Xael
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Quertus listens to the rather negative feedback and responds with calm voice as usual:
"I agree that my quickly-sketched idea has it's flaws, but ideas can - and usually will - evolve into something better when multiple people are pondering the possibilities and eliminating those said flaws. Besides, I wouldn't even dare to propose something to our beloved Matron Mother and claim that it is the one and only truth. So, let's forget about forcing them to the arena through spells, and work it out somehow else. Let's also forget the slave part then, and as our Lady Matron proposed, sell the dwarf back to his friends after someone - Dariel? - has beaten him in the arena.
So, we just need to figure out how to get one of them accept the challenge, or to challenge one of us. They can easily refuse to have anything to do with the duel.
Possible options include;
a) Just telling them that one of use wants to duel with one of them. This has a large change of failure due to their cowardice or something else.
b) Do as in option a, but make sure he gets the idea that we're going to kill him anyway if he refuses. Flaw: He might decide not to humiliate himself in the arena and attack us anyway.
c) Do as in option b, but threaten to kill his friends too. Will almost surely get him to the arena, but will anger his friends.
More suggestions?"
OOC: Hey, Quertus has Intelligence of 24. I certainly don't.
"I agree that my quickly-sketched idea has it's flaws, but ideas can - and usually will - evolve into something better when multiple people are pondering the possibilities and eliminating those said flaws. Besides, I wouldn't even dare to propose something to our beloved Matron Mother and claim that it is the one and only truth. So, let's forget about forcing them to the arena through spells, and work it out somehow else. Let's also forget the slave part then, and as our Lady Matron proposed, sell the dwarf back to his friends after someone - Dariel? - has beaten him in the arena.
So, we just need to figure out how to get one of them accept the challenge, or to challenge one of us. They can easily refuse to have anything to do with the duel.
Possible options include;
a) Just telling them that one of use wants to duel with one of them. This has a large change of failure due to their cowardice or something else.
b) Do as in option a, but make sure he gets the idea that we're going to kill him anyway if he refuses. Flaw: He might decide not to humiliate himself in the arena and attack us anyway.
c) Do as in option b, but threaten to kill his friends too. Will almost surely get him to the arena, but will anger his friends.
More suggestions?"
OOC: Hey, Quertus has Intelligence of 24. I certainly don't.
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Serpenteye
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Sensing some of the Wizard's agitation Ki'Willis answers him in a gentle voice. True, abbil, and I wouldn't wish to deterr you from voicing your thoughts. I value your oppinions, and though I may not always share them they always bring an interesting perspective to an issue.
In truth, all our options for achieving their enslavement carries their own disadvantages and benefits, weighing them is not the easiest of tasks. Compelling the dwarves to fight Dariel in the arena with magic is, while expedient, too risky. Resorting to blackmail might be less dangerous, but only slightly, as honour might compell them to deal with the situation personally. A simple challenge might actually be the wisest choice.
We can easily assume that they resent us almost as much as we dislike them, though their reasons are lesser. They are a proud people, and the humiliation we inflicted upon them in the tavern will still sting. This is all conjecture based on prejudice, but we have reason to believe that they would seize upon any excuse to pay us back if they believe they would be successful. Taking a noble son of a Drow house as a slave would be a great triumph for them. They will be willing take some risks to accomplish that. We must make them believe that those risks are as small as possible. We must make them underestimate us, but be wary that we do not underestimate them.
Dariel, your appearance belies your power. Those ignorant of your prowess will likely underestimate you until they learn the painful truth. You must appear to act independently, blinded by outrage. If they believe I approve of your actions they will certainly suspect a trap. A foolish noble fop, an easy victim for their vengeance, but don't overdo it.
If that doesn't work we can resort to more extreme measures.
Suggestions?
ooc: And I'm not a high level Drow priestess
It's ok, we all make mistakes. Now you can proceed to pick my little plan to pieces. 
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Xael
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Quertus raises his hands up, surrendering, but grins while he speaks: "The simple way is truly sometimes the best as you say, Matron Mother. But now the real question is: How much do we bet on Dariel?"
1. Dariel goes and challenges them.
2. Dariel kicks their asses.
3. We win.
How the hell am I supposed to criticize that!?!
Let's see, your plan:Serpenteye said:ooc: And I'm not a high level Drow priestess
1. Dariel goes and challenges them.
2. Dariel kicks their asses.
3. We win.
How the hell am I supposed to criticize that!?!
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