How can I walk softly and carry a BIG sword?

[Charwoman Gene]

I know it is a houserule, but I like the idea of the fullblade as a two-handed weapon sized to be used by a Medium creature, but requiring special training (EWP) to use without penalty. Basically, a Bigger Greatsword, but designed explicitly for oversized use by a medium creature.

An ogre using it without proficiency would be at -6. -2 if he had fullblade EWP.

[Edit: Yeah, now I know why, I have a 1st printing S&F. ]

 

[Moon-Lancer]

I had a feeling this was based on more Anime style than fantasy (as in novels, etc.) or even history.

Then why did you ask?

Are you suggesting that by virtue that I consider some anime to be fantasy, that my idea of the fullblade is somehow incorrect? If so, then that would be a fallacy of guild by association
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

if i have made a mistake though, and misjudged your statement and that you do not think that my views of the fullbade are wrong based on its association with anime, forgive me.

Anyway, How is taking a -2 on attack for an extra +2 on damage (over a greatsword) balanced when power attack could give a +4 damage or even +3 damage (1.5 power attack)

 

[Hypersmurf]

Then why did you ask?

I suspect he's still waiting for an example of an iconic fantasy hero

Anyway, How is taking a -2 on attack for an extra +2 on damage (over a greatsword) balanced when power attack could give a +4 damage or even +3 damage (1.5 power attack)

So use Power Attack.

-Hyp.

 

[frankthedm]

Anyway, How is taking a -2 on attack for an extra +2 on damage (over a greatsword) balanced when power attack could give a +4 damage or even +3 damage (1.5 power attack)

Because wielding a weapon too damn big for the user should not be optimal. The weight and balance of the weapon will throw off the wielder’s attacks. A 'hero' can do it, maybe even do it well, but the same amount of effort applied to wielding a normal weapon will get better results. The system cares enough about weapon shape and mass to penalize someone wielding an Ogre’s dagger as a shortsword, it won’t let an anime inspired uberblade slip by unmolested.

 

[frankthedm]

A fullblade is only 9 average damage. The average damage of a greatsword is 7. That makes the difference of a great sword and fullblade a difference of 2 damage. Thats well in line for a exotic weapon boost in my opinion.

Medium creatures pay a feat to get one average point of damage. War Axe, bastard sword, & {FR] Maul are 1d10 weapons, upgraded from 1d8. Two points of damage for a medium creature is a 4th level fighter only feat called weapon specialization.

 

[IcyCool]

Medium creatures pay a feat to get one average point of damage. War Axe, bastard sword, & {FR] Maul are 1d10 weapons, upgraded from 1d8. Two points of damage for a medium creature is a 4th level fighter only feat called weapon specialization.

True, but the general formula that can be seen with an Exotic version of a weapon is that it is basically one of the martial weapons, but with one of its stats bumped up by one step. The bastard sword is essentially an exotic longsword with the damage stat bumped by one step.

So a two-handed exotic weapon that does 2d8 damage, with a 19-20/2 crit range would be what, some form of exotic heavy flail? Then again, the fact that there aren't too many two-handed exotic weapons with heavy damage dice is probably intentional.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Then why did you ask?

Are you suggesting that by virtue that I consider some anime to be fantasy, that my idea of the fullblade is somehow incorrect? If so, then that would be a fallacy of guild by association
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

if i have made a mistake though, and misjudged your statement and that you do not think that my views of the fullbade are wrong based on its association with anime, forgive me.

Anyway, How is taking a -2 on attack for an extra +2 on damage (over a greatsword) balanced when power attack could give a +4 damage or even +3 damage (1.5 power attack)

Uhhh...you know that the Monkey Gripped Greatsword does 3d6, so an extra 3.5 damage, right?

 

[Goreg Skullcrusher]

Uhhh...you know that the Monkey Gripped Greatsword does 3d6, so an extra 3.5 damage, right?

With the additional, but minor, bonus of having a slightly higher maximum damage. 18 for the large greatsword, 16 for the PA'd medium greatsword.

 

[hong]

I suspect he's still waiting for an example of an iconic fantasy hero

Cloud is iconic to a large part of today's gamers. Cf Exalted.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

Because wielding a weapon too damn big for the user should not be optimal. The weight and balance of the weapon will throw off the wielder’s attacks.

You must be playing a different game then I. Mine tend to involve dice. While I am in love with swords as much as the next geek... we always loose players when they bring swords to the table... lol

A 'hero' can do it, maybe even do it well, but the same amount of effort applied to wielding a normal weapon will get better results. In

I think the -2 should still be worth the sacrifice, dont you? thiers no point to hurting flavor you disagree with...

The system cares enough about weapon shape and mass to penalize someone wielding an Ogre’s dagger as a shortsword, it won’t let an anime inspired uberblade slip by unmolested.

*edit* my mistake, i mis read what you had written. I don't agree with this, but sadly it is the rules. I still like the idea of a hobbit using a human sized dagger as a short sword though....

Medium creatures pay a feat to get one average point of damage. War Axe, bastard sword, & {FR] Maul are 1d10 weapons, upgraded from 1d8. Two points of damage for a medium creature is a 4th level fighter only feat called weapon specialization.

so a fullblade should be a -2 to attack? i don't quit follow your logic. A fullblade with a near blind conversion to 3.5 has no outstanding qualities because they are negated by the penalties. So how is that balanced when giving up a feat for something power attack can do without its versatility?

farewell. until we meet again...