How could a vampire fake his own death?

[FoxWander]

Wow, lots of good ideas. I should post some of the other weirdness that's come up during games (especially the VtM ones). Boating accident sounds best. And then one of us can seem the "hero" by jumping in to save his friend.

And as to why we're worried about the insurance money. It's Vampire the Masquerade- you've gotta have guilt, remorse and terrible angst or you're just not a proper vamp. Actually, we're not playing with all that nonsense, but we are going on the assumption that as a vamp your still basically "you"- just not quite so living and with a unique diet. So we're not Buffy-verse vampires who are actually demons or suddenly "chaotic evil". We're just exploring the idea of what we would do if this actually happened to us. Trying to figure out the more mundane problems of being a vampire. (and since the military gave me a quarter million $$$ insurance policy, I'd like to see my sister get it.) It's not like you'll crawl out of the ground and suddenly be issued your black velvet cape and a creepy castle on the hill. And this is where the weird questions come in...

- What if you "wake up" and they're in the middle of your autopsy? I answered that one by finding this site-Autopsy description. Short answer to this question- roll up a new character.

- Where do you sleep? Can you just buy a coffin? How hard is it to make one?

- What about a gun safe instead? Heck of alot more secure than a coffin. Can you get one that opens from the inside- you know, as a "safety measure"?

- Where CAN you buy cow or pig blood? That's what Angel does on his show. Is buying blood legal? Exactly how much blood does a cow have? (for storage logistics)

- How does one meet other vamps? Would you want to?

- Where can you get lots of holy water to fill a super-soaker? How thick of a kevlar vest do you need to stop a wooden stake?

 

[Umbran]

- Where CAN you buy cow or pig blood? That's what Angel does on his show. Is buying blood legal?

A butcher, and yes, it is entirely legal. Eastern European folks often have some version of "blood sausage", for which actual blood is a major ingredient.

 

[BSF]

I would do a boating accident. Especially a speedboat! Take it out one night, party it up so that people assume you are drunk. Do something stupid: Take the speedboat out for a spin in the middle of the night. Make sure you hit a rock, pier, boat, something. By the time searchers find anything, the boat will be mostly sunk and no bodies will be found. It is actually not that uncommon.

 

[Norfleet]

Or you can just disappear suddenly, courtesy of Guido and Shorty. Everyone will figure you developed a bad case of cementfoot.

 

[Kerrick]

If any of you are women, you could go wandering around in rural WA and suddenly vanish - people will assume you've become the Green River Killer's latest victim.

On a similar note, just go hiking somewhere where a lot of people disappear and/or die every year - the Rockies, for instance, the wilds of northern WA, etc., or go mountain climbing - bodies are lost all the time in avalanches, snowstorms, crevasses, etc.

 

[WayneLigon]

It's Vampire the Masquerade ...- Where do you sleep? Can you just buy a coffin? How hard is it to make one?

- What about a gun safe instead? Heck of alot more secure than a coffin. Can you get one that opens from the inside- you know, as a "safety measure"?

- Where CAN you buy cow or pig blood? That's what Angel does on his show. Is buying blood legal? Exactly how much blood does a cow have? (for storage logistics)

- How does one meet other vamps? Would you want to?

- Where can you get lots of holy water to fill a super-soaker? How thick of a kevlar vest do you need to stop a wooden stake?

1. You can sleep anywhere you like, unless you have a specific Flaw about it. If for some reason you had to have a coffin, it's very easy to make one.

2. Don't know anything about gun safes.

3. Butchers. Stockyards. However, in Vampire, drinking animal blood is virtually a test of will. It tastes terrible, like you were drinking lye soap. Human blood is the only type of blood that actually tastes good to a vampire. Except for vampire blood, which you'll probably realize later

4. Generally, given your origins, the other vamps will be finding you very quickly once you start to hunt (and esp. when you mess up and let someone live). There are many rules in normal Vampire settings, (if you're using that, that is) and you'll probably be breaking a lot of them unknowingly. Your Sire did that, just by making you the way he did.

You may want to, you may not. There is always safety in numbers, but it depends on what clan you guys are (you're all of one clan, since one person made you). If you're members of the same clan as the Prince, he probably won't be pleased. If you're a member of one of the more anarchic clans, or the Children of a true anarch, then your origins won't matter as much.

5. Holy Water, Crosses, all that.. none of that works on vampires in Vampire, unless they have a specific flaw or are facing someone with True Faith (very, very rare people; maybe one in 10 priests has it of a level sufficient that could affect a vampire). A normal kevlar vest will probably stop a wooden stake, I would think. You have bigger worries, like fire and daylight.

 

[Beelzebub]

An adult 1500 pound cow has 32 gallons of blood.

 

[Umbran]

3. Butchers. Stockyards. However, in Vampire, drinking animal blood is virtually a test of will. It tastes terrible, like you were drinking lye soap. Human blood is the only type of blood that actually tastes good to a vampire.

Hm, a scan of my Vampire book doesn't reaveal that. It might be something from your GM, specifically. My rulebook in a number of places puts an emphasis on the fact that animal blood is an option.

The issue of animal blood isn't taste or sensation. It's that animals generaly aren't as nourishing to vampires. For all it's mass, a whole cow has a whopping 5 Blood Points, where an adult human has 10. Cows are the celery of the vampire world

Plus, sucking the blood out of a cow, dog, or rat is just demeaning. And all those vampires who have chucked human morality aside will pooint and laugh at you and call you names and give you all the respect they'd give a turnip.

5. ....A normal kevlar vest will probably stop a wooden stake, I would think. You have bigger worries, like fire and daylight.

Beware generalizations. In Vampire, the question of what will stop a stake is not so much an issue of the weapon itself as it is of who is holding it. Many things in the White Wolf universe are capable of packing a lot of whallop behind that stake.

However, this isn't Buffy. There aren't critical hit locations. Your opponent generally has to beat you into submission before he can drive a stake in your heart. It's presumed that until you are Incapacitated, you're can generally manage to not have the pointy thing hit you where it really hurts.

 

[clark411]

I thought this was going to be a thread about vampires faking their own vampiric perma-death. I had images of a pile of ashes on the sidewalk with a small sign reading "Oops" sticking out of it.

"What if you "wake up" and they're in the middle of your autopsy?"
Kill them all. Don't succumb to the beast afterward... but be angsty and guilt-ridden afterwards.

"Where do you sleep? Can you just buy a coffin? How hard is it to make one?"
Depending on your clan you may need a bit of soil with you, but yes as mentioned above, just about anywhere that is sun-proofed should do. A highrise apartment with duct-taped windows and cardboard covered windows is just as good as a basement. Should you survive your early years with the Cams or Sabbat, upgrade later to various fancy mechanisms that block out light.

"Where CAN you buy cow or pig blood? That's what Angel does on his show. Is buying blood legal? Exactly how much blood does a cow have? (for storage logistics)"
As mentioned... although a lot of these places will be the domain of other vampires. One of the best places to get your blood is Cam parties. Hospitality means free meals sometimes... yum.

"How does one meet other vamps? Would you want to?"
As mentioned before, just screw up your feeding a few times and you'll be discovered. Heck, just feed long enough and you'll be stepping on someone's toes. Consider the city and it's people the equivalent of "the King's Forest and Game." Until he gives you the right to be there, you're poaching.
Despite the fact that you'll most likely screw up without guidance, you do want to get involved in the Cam court life asap. Just waking up, you have no concept of the masquerade, the factions (hunters, mages, feds etc) that will kill you if you don't have help... get help.

 

[wolfen]

I can't believe no one said airplane crash.

I mean, you're a vampire. A flying(?), undead, mind-controlling creature. You buy a ticket right away bound for overseas. You have the stewardesses one-by-one go psycho on the captain and crew. Hell, you could feast on the entire plane before it goes down if you want to do the dirty work, yourself. As long as your voice isn't actually in any recognizable form in the cockpit, you won't be implicated in any investigation.

It crashes over the Atlantic. You fly out of the plane when you're done eatin', before it actually hits water.

No brainer.


wolfen