D&D (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

[Minigiant]

I think they were the Underdark Orc role ever since 3E

Orogs are the "Blessed with smart" Orc in 5e so the DM can gotcha players with advanced tactics when players see simple orcs.

That litterally the lore. Orogs use advanced tactics and slay overconfident adventurers.

 

[Justice and Rule]

II am not trying to be pedantic. I just appreciate dialogue in movies and don't think you can swap out any word for another without affecting the flow of it and how it lands. Like I said I am not even that much of a star wars fan. I am just making the point that each time people try to work in these kinds of changes to media in order to make them more wholesome or less X, it can have an unintended impact on the way things work

There is no try: there is do, or do not. You are very much doing.

At the end, you're making an impassioned argument for a reading of a line that I don't think is at all essential. What matters is that a line like it is there. If you want to argue that it's snappy, okay. But the actually content of the line isn't intended to say anything deeper than what we get from the scene. It's just a deep read that really doesn't hold up because nothing about what the deep read is saying is addressed by either character at any point during the movie.

 

[Guest 85555]

No, and this is where I think your stretch starts to fall apart. It's fine as a joke because we know Wookies are hairy, not that it's Han's best friend.

The point is when he says "I can arrange that" it works because he literally can. That is one of the things that makes it funny. Your mind immediately realizes "Oh, he can, he is friends with a wookie"

 

[Justice and Rule]

The point is when he says "I can arrange that" it works because he literally can. That is one of the things that makes it funny. Your mind immediately realizes "Oh, he can, he is friends with a wookie"

He can also arrange kissing with a Tauntaun because they have an entire pen of them. We just got done with a scene involving one and even a character commenting on how bad they smell! Like, this whole thing is strained to the maximum.

 

[Faolyn]

As a kid, I always assumed that Leia didn't want to kiss a wookiee because wookiees are hairy and she didn't want to get hair in her mouth.

As an adult, I prefer the webcomic Darths and Droids to actual Star Wars, where Leia was actually sort of willing to kiss Chewbacca because Chewie's intelligent and erudite and Han's kind of a dolt.

 

[Guest 85555]

There is no try: there is do, or do not. You are very much doing.

At the end, you're making an impassioned argument for a reading of a line that I don't think is at all essential. What matters is that a line like it is there. If you want to argue that it's snappy, okay. But the actually content of the line isn't intended to say anything deeper than what we get from the scene. It's just a deep read that really doesn't hold up because nothing about what the deep read is saying is addressed by either character at any point during the movie.

No but the frequent jabs at Chebacca's wookiness do get at something deeper in the movie, especially when a character like Leia eventually grows quite close to him. It also helps set Chewbacca apart as an interesting creature. The line where 3CPO learns he may rip peoples arms off after losing a board game is amusing for that reason (and more amusing when he later is doing the opposite to C3PO by gathering up his limbs). Is it the heart of the movie? No. But the point is these things do add to it.

 

[Guest 85555]

He can also arrange kissing with a Tauntaun because they have an entire pen of them. We just got done with a scene involving one and even a character commenting on how bad they smell! Like, this whole thing is strained to the maximum.

Again we are just going to have to agree to disagree here. If you think that works fair enough. I think it is much funnier with a wookie as the joke. He can arrange it. He personally knows a wookie. We know which wookie it is, etc

 

[Guest 85555]

There is no try: there is do, or do not. You are very much doing.

Isn't 'doing' the point of that?

 

[Justice and Rule]

No but the frequent jabs at Chebacca's wookiness do get at something deeper in the movie, especially when a character like Leia eventually grows quite close to him. It also helps set Chewbacca apart as an interesting creature. The line where 3CPO learns he may rip peoples arms off after losing a board game is amusing for that reason (and more amusing when he later is doing the opposite to C3PO by gathering up his limbs). Is it the heart of the movie? No. But the point is these things do add to it.

Eventually grows close to him? By Empire, she already is. Like, this is how bad your reading of this is: it's premised on this idea that Leia and Chewie aren't already friends. We're three years into them knowing each other by then. There is no "Ah, but now I respect you!" arc here. She already did by the time Empire comes out.

Again we are just going to have to agree to disagree here. If you think that works fair enough. I think it is much funnier with a wookie as the joke. He can arrange it. He personally knows a wookie. We know which wookie it is, etc

And again, that doesn't mean anything because the Tauntaun line does the exact same thing. What you're missing is not the "I can arrange that" isn't the heart of the scene, it's Han's anger at Leia at the time.

Isn't 'doing' the point of that?

I'm referring to you not trying to be pedantic. There is no trying: you are doing.

 

[Justice and Rule]

As a kid, I always assumed that Leia didn't want to kiss a wookiee because wookiees are hairy and she didn't want to get hair in her mouth.

As an adult, I prefer the webcomic Darths and Droids to actual Star Wars, where Leia was actually sort of willing to kiss Chewbacca because Chewie's intelligent and erudite and Han's kind of a dolt.

Darths and Droids is great. I need to go back to it; I haven't paid attention in a long time and I'm kind of interested in how they fix up the Sequel trilogy.