D&D (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

[Frozen_Heart]

Say using Lost Mine of Phandelver as an example. What are the troublesome aspects of that campaign which could be changed?

 

[Guest 85555]

So, if I go to Boston and kick in the door to an apartment complex, those people aren't native to Boston, because the apartment complex is just "a big home"? They are merely "residents" of the city.

I have rarely read a story where a home invasion happened and the victims were called natives

 

[Alzrius]

In addition to those, there was a country in the east of the Forgotten Realms that absorbed an orc army that invaded as part of Zhentil Keep forces. They lived with everyone else, even taking positions of leadership.

The ondonti, which I'm pretty sure I linked to in the post this was in reply to.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

5e originally started with the idea that orcs were all evil and thus unplayable. Half Orcs was the playable orc.. Orog was the unplayable smart orc. But this was outdated by 2014 due to the fantasy community being familiar with other media like TES and Warcraft.

So Orc became playable. But like I said upthread, this gave Half Orcs no niche. Orcs now could be smart and could temper their rage. So if Orcs are people and Human are people, what is Orc + Human.

WOTC never explored that. A half orc is just an orc who can take human feats.

Mind flayers and gnolls display ways you can have intelligent beings that you can kill indiscriminately. They aren't people. They don't think like people. They don't look like people. They are monsters through and though.

I refuse to let the Gnoll slander slide, but otherwise you are correct.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Dryads aren't? Dryads aren't playable (unlike orcs and goblins) but they aren't slaughtered on sight.

Wandering offtopic...

But seriously why don't we have a playable plant species? Pathfinder has Leshys and they're such a meme. I love them so much.

 

[Maxperson]

The ondonti, which I'm pretty sure I linked to in the post this was in reply to.

I never realized that they were part of that tribe of orcs. The book that mentioned them didn't mention the tribal name I don't think.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Man what about half ogres?

Real big tough guys. Ludoesque.

Has D&D ever made ogres interesting? Magic, lore, etc

 

[Chaosmancer]

That says more about your memory than anything else. I hear these lines quoted, and both of those quotes were off the top of my head.


This is moving the goal posts from the original argument that there was no racism towards Chewbacca in the films. I don't care.

My only point was that you were factually wrong that there was an absence of racism in the movies against Chewbacca. You don't need to make arguments about Star Wars using misinformation in order to make arguments about appropriate levels of racist themes in D&D. If you can't remember Star Wars, then Stick to D&D.

Right, I am properly chastised. Now, how about instead of the details, you answer the question that was the point.

Would have adding more racism into the movies made them better? Is racism the secret sauce to interesting stories like keeps getting claimed?

 

[AnotherGuy]

Right, I am properly chastised. Now, how about instead of the details, you answer the question that was the point.

Would have adding more racism into the movies made them better? Is racism the secret sauce to interesting stories like keeps getting claimed?

What a peculiar way to frame the debate.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I do wonder if at some point, the mind flayer and gnoll lore will get rewritten to make them playable and not just monster manual entries.

I don't want it to happen, but I can see it happening.

Gnolls were playable in 3.5 and 4e. They don’t even need a rewrite, just a little added lore from a couple old sources.