D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

[Justice and Rule]

Actually, logistics are quite important to all my worldbuilding; I am a simulationist.

Also, generally speaking I avoid YouTube like the plague.

Oh, I think many consider themselves as such. But like @Faolyn has pointed out, few settings actually deal with the harsh realities.

My mistake on typing moral majority but I think the point still stands. It is a term that has a very specific political connotation in the US. So using it at a label for a poster who is just saying the numbers of people who agree with you might not be what you think because people are afraid to speak up, seems like it is casting an unnessary shadow over the argument. There is nothing connecting this opinion with the specific meaning of that term by Richard Nixon. It unfairly connects him with the Nixon administration in an argument over whether half elves and half orcs are okay in a game.

No, and I'd really appreciate it if you stop trying deny calling a spade a spade here. Just because you don't like the term does not mean you are not absolutely harkening to that argument.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I would argue that a business that listens to its customers is a good thing.

I would argue that basing policy decisions on who yells the loudest is a questionable design philosophy.

 

[Justice and Rule]

I would argue that basing policy decisions on who yells the loudest is a questionable design philosophy.

But again: there are plenty of very, very loud people on the other side. You apparently don't know that they exist, though, because you've cloistered yourself away from one of the major drivers of engagement in the community.

 

[Belen]

No matter how you try to play it, it's still arguing from the perspective of a "silent majority". If you're uncomfortable with it being labelled as such, maybe you should avoid continually using that sort of argument.

I think that the use of the label is meant to color the argument.

It is funny but my gaming groups over the years often included a huge range of genders, orientation, and opinions. There have been some very lively debates over the years yet the groups always tended to be close knit. In many cases, this was because of our shared reality as gamers and geeks. We were always outside of the mainstream.

I do not see this as often the last few years.

 

[Incenjucar]

I would argue that basing policy decisions on who yells the loudest is a questionable design philosophy.

Uh huh. Do you have an example of an RPG publisher that went bankrupt because it listened to customers?

 

[Guest 85555]

No, and I'd really appreciate it if you stop trying deny calling a spade a spade here. Just because you don't like the term does not mean you are not absolutely harkening to that argument.

The only part of that argument that is being harkened back to (and it is an argument that has existed throughout history) is there may be a large number of people who haven't publicly voiced their opinion on an issue and this is creating a skewed view of what the landscape of views is. The problem with you connecting his arguments to 'the silent majority' it makes it sound like he is harkening back to things Richard Nixon was advocating for or that the silent majority was said to represent. Which is deeply unfair because we don't know anything about his politics, you are tying his position to a very specific and congestive political point of view, but given this is 2023, I highly doubt he is even thinking about anything to do with that when he makes the claim that there are people who haven't vocalized their opion out of fear. Why this kind of tactic troubles me is because I am not a conservative. So I find it distasteful when this sort of rhetoric is used to connect something I said about elf games to what they think they know about my voting habits, my beliefs or my political views. I would imagine this poster also doesn't like having what he said attached to a political position he may not hold, simply because of a superficial resemblance to the arguments.

 

[Guest 85555]

Actually, logistics are quite important to all my worldbuilding; I am a simulationist.

Also, generally speaking I avoid YouTube like the plague.

I am not a simulationist but a lot of my campaigns draw from real history and I find it helpful to consider things like logistics in world building

 

[Justice and Rule]

I think that the use of the label is meant to color the argument.

And I think it's just an accurate description of what you're saying. If you're saying that there is an underrepresented and quieted portion of the community that disagrees, what else can we say? Maybe you should consider why your argument is that.

The only part of that argument that is being harkened back to (and it is an argument that has existed throughout history) is there may be a large number of people who haven't publicly voiced their opinion on an issue and this is creating a skewed view of what the landscape of views is.

You are very uncomfortable with an accurate term. You would be better off actually trying to prove a majority of people are actually unsatisfied with these changes or telling us what sort of ideas people had quietly quashed for fear of being attacked by the Twitter mob.

 

[Guest 85555]

You are very uncomfortable with an accurate term.

I am not uncomfortable at all. But we can keep going back and forth on this, but I don't think it will be useful. I personally do not see how that is an accurate term to describe things when its rhetorical use in this case is quite evident.

 

[Justice and Rule]

I am not uncomfortable at all. But we can keep going back and forth on this, but I don't think it will be useful. I personally do not see how that is an accurate term to describe things when its rhetorical use in this case is quite evident.

I feel like you are more concerned with the term than actually providing evidence for your arguments. Again, why not provide an idea shared to you that would have been stopped by the Twitter mob.