D&D 5E (2024) How did I miss this about the Half races/ancestries

[Guest 85555]

I feel like you are more concerned with the term than actually providing evidence for your arguments. Again, why not provide an idea shared to you that would have been stopped by the Twitter mob.

I am only going to comment on this once. But I gave you an answer to this earlier in the thread and I responded to another poster who asked for similar information.

 

[Belen]

than actually providing evidence for your arguments.

This part of ENWorld has not changed.

 

[gban007]

The only part of that argument that is being harkened back to (and it is an argument that has existed throughout history) is there may be a large number of people who haven't publicly voiced their opinion on an issue and this is creating a skewed view of what the landscape of views is. The problem with you connecting his arguments to 'the silent majority' it makes it sound like he is harkening back to things Richard Nixon was advocating for or that the silent majority was said to represent. Which is deeply unfair because we don't know anything about his politics, you are tying his position to a very specific and congestive political point of view, but given this is 2023, I highly doubt he is even thinking about anything to do with that when he makes the claim that there are people who haven't vocalized their opion out of fear. Why this kind of tactic troubles me is because I am not a conservative. So I find it distasteful when this sort of rhetoric is used to connect something I said about elf games to what they think they know about my voting habits, my beliefs or my political views. I would imagine this poster also doesn't like having what he said attached to a political position he may not hold, simply because of a superficial resemblance to the arguments.

It seems a bit of a stretch to suggest that referring to a silent majority means that they are referring to Nixon's policies - Silent Majority has been used many times before and since Nixon to refer to the feeling that there is a large group of people who are choosing not to speak up about something but have a certain view, thus I think very much the 'definition' of silent majority is that 'large number of people (albeit a majority) who haven't publicly voiced their opinion on an issue' - and no other meaning is intended.

 

[Justice and Rule]

I am only going to comment on this once. But I gave you an answer to this earlier in the thread and I responded to another poster who asked for similar information.

No, you did not. You said that you answered "someone else" in a thread of 80 pages. That is incredibly rude for someone asking a very basic question that should be easy to answer, but that was also a different question than what I'm asking now: I don't believe you have ever given us an actual example of what has been lost because you are continually trying to not give any details. It's only ever been vague statements.

 

[Faolyn]

Fair enough. Spire is not a game I'm familiar with, to be honest. Is it much like D&D?

Not at all. Very different system. It's a slightly more akin to PbtA games, although it's not one of them. Gorgeous, minimalist art.

 

[Guest 85555]

No, you did not. You said that you answered "someone else" in a thread of 80 pages. That is incredibly rude for someone asking a very basic question that should be easy to answer, but that was also a different question than what I'm asking now: I don't believe you have ever given us an actual example of what has been lost because you are continually trying to not give any details. It's only ever been vague statements.

Justice, I will be clear with you on this. You have asked this of me repeatedly even though I believe I either gave enough examples in my posts or alluded to things people clearly understood (and in some cases didn't want to name specific publishers or designers, because it didn't seem fair to drag people not in this discussion, in it). But my sense when you keep asking these questions in the aggressive way you are, is if I were to answer you, nothing I say is going to be heard fairly. This is why there was a poster who I gave clearer examples to, but didn't provide them to you. If you want to keep asking for examples, I can't stop you. But I don't feel there is a positive enough interaction between us for me to want to answer a series of questions by you like this.

 

[Faolyn]

And the pool of things that are considered problematic also seems to getting bigger and bigger.

They were always problematic. The difference is that the people who used those things either didn't know or didn't care, because it wasn't about them.

 

[Guest 85555]

Not at all. Very different system. It's a slightly more akin to PbtA games, although it's not one of them. Gorgeous, minimalist art.

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I don't really play PbtA style games but many of the RPGs in this style seem to have a great sense of visual design

 

[Faolyn]

The definition changes daily/weekly/monthly at times. I am not certain I ever heard of half-elves as a potentially racist trope before the recent news articles and that was only because a designer decided that something was problematic.

Honestly, I have not really been on the ENWorld since my son was born 11 years ago. I have been shocked at the changes in the community. It is a really different mindset. Gamers seem to be a lot different, if you measure the discussions here although I would bet that those who do not follow boards and discussions have not changed as much.

Half-elves aren't racist. It's that half-whatevers are specifically called out for being discriminated against, in a game that also has anthro turtles, for no good reason.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I am not a simulationist but a lot of my campaigns draw from real history and I find it helpful to consider things like logistics in world building

Thank you for assuming I actually mean what I say.