How does Boromir keep fighting?

[TiQuinn]

And don't get me started on that special relationship between Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore.....old man and a young boy....I'm shocked that this would ever see print let alone film!

 

[TiQuinn]

Now what I want to know is this:

How did Frodo break Boromir's grapple when he got away with the ring? Boromir's got a pretty good strength! And we're talking about a hobbit! Sheesh!

 

[ElectricShrubbery]

I see none of you know what 'slash' is.

 

[S'mon]

Seems like in a lot of popular culture, there are always people who look at strong male friendships and automatically see "something more" in the subtext. And it's not just in LoTR either.

I, personally, am getting tired of people who automatically assume Yaoi (male-male) relationships occur within every Anime series featuring male characters with a strong friendship. The most flagrant of this can be found amongst Gundam Wing fans ("Ooh, all the heroes are young bishonen males, so they must be Gay, never mind their obvious female love interests") and in Digimon fandom ("Taichi and Yamato MUST have the hots for each other! They keep giving hints about it!")

I have nothing against actual gay relationships between characters, but please, people, can we stop automatically assuming that hidden homosexual content is found in every series?

Hm - one of the Gundam Wing characters certainly seemed highly effeminate, I thought, when I watched it - also he seemed to be in love with one of the others. AIR it was the blond one, can't remember his name...

 

[S'mon]

I see none of you know what 'slash' is.

*Raises hand*

I do! I do!

Heck, I was on a Blake's Seven mailing list for several months, I even dated one of the (female) members (I'm male).

 

[S'mon]

Sorry for my lack of skill at the english language and in the use of smilies. It was a joke. Or maybe not, because I heard a lot of giggles in the cinema at that point.

I think this must be an American thing - I watched LoTR in London, it didn't occur to me, my wife, or anyone else in the cinema AFAIK that there was anything homoerotic about Boromir's death scene, though it was dreadfully over-dramatised IMO.

Tolkien doesn't seem to have been much interested in women in intellectual terms (he was married, had children, etc), his world centred around male-male (platonic) friendships and his writings reflect that.

 

[Hakkenshi]

Well sometimes it's pretty hard not to "imagine" these things. I'm sure a lot of twisted people who weren't really into LotR but went to see the movie thought Sam and Frodo were gay. I sure as hell didn't...I just saw a great friendship. Love does exist between two entirely heterosexual best friends.

But I think that's besides the point, since LotR is entirely apart from that sort of debate, IMHO. It's not a question of Tolkien being pro-homosexuality or homophobic, it's just not an issue in the story, or in that world, at all.

Anime is another matter, if I may go off-topic for a second. Anyone seen Evangelion?

And S'mon, you're thinking of Quatre, I believe.

As for the Phantom Menace, well...I'm so stunned I don't really know what to say. Except...where does Darth Maul fit in?

 

[wolff96]

How did Frodo break Boromir's grapple when he got away with the ring? Boromir's got a pretty good strength! And we're talking about a hobbit! Sheesh!

He has really, really high ranks in Escape Artist.

Or: when he put on the ring, Boromir was so surprised that he let go for just a moment -- long enough to get away.

Besides, the hobbit can always roll a '20' while the human rolls a '1', you know.

 

[TiQuinn]

He has really, really high ranks in Escape Artist.

Or: when he put on the ring, Boromir was so surprised that he let go for just a moment -- long enough to get away.

Besides, the hobbit can always roll a '20' while the human rolls a '1', you know.

Personally, I think Peter Jackson was cheating. He should've consulted the 3rd edition rules first.

 

[Corinth]

Hm - one of the Gundam Wing characters certainly seemed highly effeminate, I thought, when I watched it - also he seemed to be in love with one of the others. AIR it was the blond one, can't remember his name...

Quatre Raberra Winner: heir of the Winner family, leader of the Magunac Corps and pilot of Gundam Sandrock.