How does Titan Fighting work when fighting giants?

[Kunimatyu]

I was looking at this feat the other day, and I was wondering how it works when fighting a giant, since a giant is(usually) a Large monster or larger.

Here's the feat:

Titan Fighting(Races of stone, requires Dodge and a racial dodge bonus vs. giants)

When you designate a creature at least one size larger than you as the target of your Dodge feat, you apply your racial dodge bonus v. giants instead of the normal +1 from Dodge, regardless of the creature's type.

So, if I'm a dwarf fighting a Hill Giant(and he's my dodge target), would I get +8 to AC from the normal racial dodge bonus + the special Titan Fighting dodge bonus?

 

[AuraSeer]

No. Titan Fighting doesn't give you an additional dodge bonus. It only lets your existing racial dodge bonus apply to more creatures.

 

[DevoutlyApathetic]

In fact Titan Fighting substitutes your racial bonus in place of your dodge feat bonus. So get +4 for a larger target being the target of Dodge, then get +4 for him being a giant sounds like it might work.

It actually looks very ambiguous as written. I don't think I'd suggest them working together to net a +8. A +4 against anything bigger than you is already a huge bonus for a single feat.

 

[Diirk]

Well its only actually +3, because +1 of it came from the dodge feat you already had... and its only against a single foe at a time.

 

[Endur]

This is another case of unclear rules. The author probably didn't intend the total dodge bonus to be +8.

On the other hand, I really like the idea of a +8 dodge bonus against Giants, and I'm all for the interpretation that says "all dodge bonuses stack".

 

[Crothian]

I think it is for +8 against one giant and then +4 verse the other giants. But I can see it either way.

 

[Jesus_marley]

The way I read it, it grants you your +4 dodge bonus versus giants for anything that is medium size or greater (assuming you are small, of course) and is designated for your use of dodge..

 

[CM]

I think AuraSeer and Jesus_marley have it right. This feat simply extends your +4 racial bonus vs giants to any target of your dodge feat that is larger than you, regardless of type. If you target a giant with your dodge feat, the Titan Fighting feat has no effect.

Edit: Actually Jesus_marley, one of the requirements is that you have a racial bonus to AC against giants, so only dwarves (medium size) can take the feat, and it only works against large or larger creatures (unless you have a small dwarf.

 

[Staffan]

Edit: Actually Jesus_marley, one of the requirements is that you have a racial bonus to AC against giants, so only dwarves (medium size) can take the feat, and it only works against large or larger creatures (unless you have a small dwarf.

Works for gnomes too.

 

[CM]

Works for gnomes too.

Whoops, I had totally forgotten they had that too. Shows how often I play one.