How many wizards does it take to screw in a lightbu- I mean, kill Elminster?

[jdrakeh]

Now you are reaching.

Not really. What you describe below is pure metagaming based on player knowledge of the D&D rules and common ways to exploit them to your advantage, not what could be considered typical in-character knowledge of any sort. "Magic Users behave this way in D&D!" isn't in-character knowledge. No reaching needed.

He is a spellcaster. Vast majority of those have one way or another to flee without using thier feet. Unless you WANT a spell caster to get away, you Dimensional anchor them first round. Because if the fight is not going their way, they don't give thier attackers a second round.

Also you Layer up those Dimension Achors. This way a single dispel magic ONLY can strip one of the spells at a time unless the caster want to target HIMSELF with the dispel, automaticly dispelling every spell he has cast on himself in the process.

 

[jdrakeh]

Now you are reaching.

Not really. What you describe below is pure metagaming based on player knowledge of the D&D rules and ways to exploit them to your advantage, not what could be considered typical in-character knowledge of any sort. "Magic Users behave this way in D&D and, thus, the best D&D rules to apply so that things unfold to my advantage are. . ." isn't in-character knowledge. No reaching needed.

He is a spellcaster. Vast majority of those have one way or another to flee without using thier feet. Unless you WANT a spell caster to get away, you Dimensional anchor them first round. Because if the fight is not going their way, they don't give thier attackers a second round.

Also you Layer up those Dimension Achors. This way a single dispel magic ONLY can strip one of the spells at a time unless the caster want to target HIMSELF with the dispel, automaticly dispelling every spell he has cast on himself in the process.

 

[jdrakeh]

Arguably, none of the conditions of Elminster's Evasion apply to 'Trap the Soul'.

Nope. That said, with his stats as a chosen of Mystra, they don't need to.

 

[Imp]

Not really. What you describe below is pure metagaming based on player knowledge of the D&D rules and ways to exploit them to your advantage, not what could be considered typical in-character knowledge of any sort. "Magic Users behave this way in D&D and, thus, the best D&D rules to apply so that things unfold to my advantage are. . ." isn't in-character knowledge. No reaching needed.

Oh, this is silly. If Elminster is the first wizard over like 7th level the D&D characters have ever fought they are going to be in a bit of trouble.

 

[Anson Caralya]

Assuming there's some reason Elminster would be compelled to fight rather than flee...

Give me a low-epic Master Transmogrifist, shapechange into a kraken with the immunity to magic special quality of a will-o'-wisp through Infinite Variety, beat up on him a bit, and once you've succeeded with a grapple check, change form into a mind flayer and extract his brain. I bet it's a tasty brain.

I dunno.

 

[Maldor]

Not really. What you describe below is pure metagaming based on player knowledge of the D&D rules and ways to exploit them to your advantage, not what could be considered typical in-character knowledge of any sort. "Magic Users behave this way in D&D and, thus, the best D&D rules to apply so that things unfold to my advantage are. . ." isn't in-character knowledge. No reaching needed.

this is like mid-level wizard tactics 101 i mean duh what does your wizard that can cast teleport do when he is faceing overwheling odds. It's not out of character knowledge it's what commonly happens in the world these characters live in. it would be like guessing the the fighter is going to attack you with his sword.

 

[Maldor]

if you can cast 9 level and have mother cyst that spell destroys the soul completely it would be very hard to get off though.

 

[hero4hire]

I can think of 3 ways.

1) Pretend your a new Hawt Seven Sister, Chosen of Mystra, or some other Demi-Goddess that he seems to like to frolick with and boink him to death.

2) Send Drizzt after him in a book written by RA Salvatore (of course we know he will only seem dead and come back in a sequel)

3) Bribe your DM with free Pizza and Mountain Dew

 

[WarlockLord]

I'm going to have to second the Pun-Pun option. Dig my narration.

One day Elminister was walking along. He had just ruined yet another FR campiagn, stealing all the player's kills and generally being an annoying DMPC. He thought he would do this again tomorrow. Then he stood around feeling pity for all of the other annoying creatures in existence, because they were inferior to him.

Then he saw a kobold. A lone kobold, just standing there. "Who are you?" asked Elminister.
"I am the uber-god Pun-Pun, son of Khan the Destroyer," came the reply. "I have come on behalf of all the players you have screwed, the campaigns you have ruined, and the fact that you have turned FR into your playground."
Elminister heard this and started to cast an epic spell, but was immediately killed by the kobold's use of a salient divine ability.
The kobold was immediately mobbed by hordes of cheering fans who carried him off the battlefield.

 

[RangerWickett]

Okay, f**k it, that's it. I'm putting Pun-Pun into my setting as a god.