How much damage does a dead black dragon do

Okay, this isn't too hard to calculate. According to the SRD, actual weapon sizes (rather than size categories) are as follows: In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.

Therefore, the medium black dragon corpse may be considered an improvised one-handed bludgeoning weapon for the large red dragon. I'd visualise it as equivalent to a flail, the red dragon wielding it by the tail, but probably the simplest equivalent is a club.

A large club deals 1d8 damage on a successful hit, and as an improvised thrown weapon, the black dragon has a range increment of 10 feet, giving it a maximum range of 50 feet.

Launching it from 450 feet, however, would definitely put it in the category of a falling object, and the dragon is doing itself no favours in aiming at a medium target from that range. It'll get close to terminal velocity over that distance, so launching force is irrelevant, and it will take almost a full round to drop that distance. I'd simply have the dragon roll an attack versus AC 5 to hit the right square, giving it a flat -20 to attack for the extreme range, and give the target a Reflex save to dodge, somewhere around DC 15.
 

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TheNovaLord said:
hmm the red dragon got away in a severely battered state being chased by d3 summoned hippogriffs so maybe i can try again next time

IDHTBIFOM, but don't summoned creatures have to stay within short range (25 ft + 5 ft/2 levels) of the caster, or else they blip out? Wouldn't be much of a chase...

WtS
 

do they have to stay close? i know they must be summoned close.

dragon has higher speed than hippogriffs so they really kept it at bay rather than pursuing.

i will CTB

JohnD
 

Wonko the Sane said:
IDHTBIFOM, but don't summoned creatures have to stay within short range (25 ft + 5 ft/2 levels) of the caster, or else they blip out? Wouldn't be much of a chase...
No, they do not need to stay within short range.


"The creature or object must appear within the spell’s range, but it does not have to remain within the range."
 

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