How much of these abilities warents a LA adjustment?

[Sravoff]

I am planning on introducing a cyber ware type ability into my d&d campaign....long story, but it sounds cool i think.

Any way, for cyber ware, you can get the following special abilities.

DR
Nat. Armor
Bonus to Skills
Bonus to initiative
Bonus to atributes
Low Light
Darkvision

so how much of each thing would warrent a LA adjustment?

If I gained 3 oints of DR, is that a +1?

Thanks in advance for your help.
-Sravoff

 

[Phasics]

DR (for 1-2 mabe no esp if its only for non-magical dmg)
Nat. Armor (again for low +1 prob wouldn't be game breakin)
Bonus to Skills (prob not if only 1-3 skills and under +3 )
Bonus to initiative (small 1-2+ prob ok as well)
Bonus to atributes ( rule of thumb +2, -2 for STR DEX and CON, no LA. If you add +2 the INT WIS or CHA usually LA +1 even with -4's of other stats)
Low Light (nope )
Darkvision (nope )

but as always alot of bee stings can kill you so if you added 10 minor bonuses that could still be an LA +1. A good gauge is to tkae one of the core races and look at the number and type of bonuses it has as a guide.

 

[Sravoff]

Thanks, though I didn't mean for new races.

I meant to add to exhisting races. Which of course would make them more powerful.

I am going to add this by way of cyberware, which can be got through out the course of play.

So how much DR, given to a human would give that human a +1 LA?

How much initiative?
Skills, armor, attributes, vision, and 5/(an energy type)?

Thanks
-Sravoff

 

[Balgus]

Thanks, though I didn't mean for new races.

I meant to add to exhisting races. Which of course would make them more powerful.

I am going to add this by way of cyberware, which can be got through out the course of play.

So how much DR, given to a human would give that human a +1 LA?

How much initiative?
Skills, armor, attributes, vision, and 5/(an energy type)?

Thanks
-Sravoff

WOW! that is alot of cool stuff to have. But you didnt really give the specifics.

-Darkvision woudl cover LLV. and no LA there
-DR- I would give a +1 for every +5/(something) - (so +1 LA for 5/silver or cold iron or adamantne, +2 LA for 5/+1, +2 LA for 10/silver or ... etc)
-Attribute bonus is in the DMG for blanace. Otherwise, it is a +1 for every +2 you give to each stat (try not to give spellcasting bonuses- they are unbalancing)
-Skill points- not a problem if it is 1 or 2 points. Class skills- not a problem at all as long as you balance it somehow (either by giving a valid reason, or removing one from your class)
-Nat Armor- I would put that as +1 for every 2 armor bonus.
-Ini- That is a plus one per +2 ini- basically you are giving away a feat.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

If you treat the cyberwear as magical gear then it's not worth any LA. For example instead/in addition of having rings of natural armor +X you have dermal plating grade X. Or instead/in addition of having belts of giant strength you have muscle enhancements.
So on and so forth.
Now if you just give free cyberwear that is essentially giving the characters free wealth and might be worth a level adjusment.

 

[Thanee]

Yep, just figure them as wealth not LA, price them as slotless magic items and you already got all the formulas you need in the DMG.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Sravoff]

WOW! that is alot of cool stuff to have. But you didnt really give the specifics.

-Darkvision woudl cover LLV. and no LA there
-DR- I would give a +1 for every +5/(something) - (so +1 LA for 5/silver or cold iron or adamantne, +2 LA for 5/+1, +2 LA for 10/silver or ... etc)
-Attribute bonus is in the DMG for blanace. Otherwise, it is a +1 for every +2 you give to each stat (try not to give spellcasting bonuses- they are unbalancing)
-Skill points- not a problem if it is 1 or 2 points. Class skills- not a problem at all as long as you balance it somehow (either by giving a valid reason, or removing one from your class)
-Nat Armor- I would put that as +1 for every 2 armor bonus.
-Ini- That is a plus one per +2 ini- basically you are giving away a feat.

The thing is, using cyberware, I wish to give out x DR/- and that equals a +1LA.

So the human would be a baisc human, say fighter, then gets cyberware, thus making him more pwoerful.

Not sure how the darkvision would work, how many feat would equal a LA adjustment? 300? Perhasp scrap the LA adjustment for vision enhancements.

The Atribute bonus are fine now, they get a +2 bonus to an atribute, at the cost of a +1 LA, and the gold used to buy it.

Nat armor is a +1 LA for every two point yo get, so that is done.

Improved init give a +4, so its a little less than a feat.

I still need some help with the skilll points, the character gets x skil points to divide how ever s/he wants to, these would be covered in misc. modifiers.

Thanks for your help, I am almost there.
-Sravoff

 

[Sravoff]

If you treat the cyberwear as magical gear then it's not worth any LA. For example instead/in addition of having rings of natural armor +X you have dermal plating grade X. Or instead/in addition of having belts of giant strength you have muscle enhancements.
So on and so forth.
Now if you just give free cyberwear that is essentially giving the characters free wealth and might be worth a level adjusment.

I was planning on them being pretty cheap, and perhaps given out for favors from surgeons.

I really liek the way cyberwarte interfered with your "being" in shadowrun, and hoped to bring that feel here. So by adding forign(sp?) items into your body, it slows down your learning curve. Thus, you earn experience slower.

 

[Thanee]

Then you would need something with more fine-tuning than LA.

You could just assign values to every piece of cyberware and add them up and deduct the total as a percentage from all XP the character earns, similar to the multiclassing penalty.

Numbers should be fairly small, so you don't end up with more than 20% total deduction, even for extensive modifications.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Sravoff]

Then you would need something with more fine-tuning than LA.

You could just assign values to every piece of cyberware and add them up and deduct the total as a percentage from all XP the character earns, similar to the multiclassing penalty.

Numbers should be fairly small, so you don't end up with more than 20% total deduction, even for extensive modifications.

Bye
Thanee

mm... perhaps..then I could give less out per piece... Thanks, I will definitly think about it.

-Sravoff

-edit- Wouldn't it be easier any way to just use LA adjustment? I mean, then you don't bother with all the math and everything. -/edit-