how to convert Fiend Lords (and other singular non-diety beings)?

[BOZ]

anyone have any thoughts on how to convert beings such as the remaining fiend lords - and fixing up the ones we have for 3.5? should we work from the examples of the demon and devil lords in the BoVD or keep doing the stats scott's way? i think we should establish a standard for what we do here with such beings. (this would also be applied to any new "celestial lords" we work on). i suggest limiting things to core rules for now though (maybe including BoVD/BoED notes) as i don't want to get into non-OGC things.

ok, i invite discussion on this topic!

 

[Krishnath]

I think the best option would be to make them similar to the way the entities where done in the BoVD and BoED, but only use SRD material for feats and such.

 

[Leopold]

make everything as SRD and OGC as possible and completely ignore the stuff from BoVD and other books.

 

[BOZ]

if we go based on BoVD stats, what we will probably need to do is compare beings like orcus, demogorgon, yeenoghu and others to their 1E versions (for things like determining HD for example) to get a good rough estimate how to bring the others up (or down) as the case may be.

 

[Leopold]

cant we just go tome of horrors on these things?

 

[Shade]

I second Krishnath's motion. While I really like the way they were done in the TOH, I'd rather have them all the same way. And some of the archfiends and celestial paragons are only found in BOVD and BOED.

 

[BOZ]

cant we just go tome of horrors on these things?

that's another possibility too. i want to go with the consensus of what you guys think.

 

[Leopold]

I second Krishnath's motion. While I really like the way they were done in the TOH, I'd rather have them all the same way. And some of the archfiends and celestial paragons are only found in BOVD and BOED.

what's the difference?

 

[Shade]

what's the difference?

Well, for starters, the power levels are quite different.

 

[BOZ]

right, and that's the main thing i'd focus on.