How to counter Mordenkainen's Disjunction


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I got no plans to nerf the mighty disjunction. It is a powerful spell, and if you keep it from destroying items it will see a LOT less use. It also isn't going anywhere for historical reasons.

Anibus - I agree with you in principle, but I think you could use a bit more tact. A FR campaign has a higher power level than a standard one, and therefore arguing that the game *in general* is balanced because of the availability of a given feat or spell in the realms does nothing for those who play at a slightly lower level.

Insulting FR players is no way to get your point across. They simply enjoy a different kind of game.
 


It is a powerful spell, and if you keep it from destroying items it will see a LOT less use.

I don't understand this stance. If MD didn't destroy the loot, it would (IMHO) see a lot more use, not less. The main reason it is not used by the party in my game is that it destroy the loot. That's also the main thing that keeps most NPCs from using it. I imagine it is similar in other campaigns.
 

Thanee said:
Maybe I should just make a little sign reading "I carry an artifact, be careful with your disjunctions or you lose all your spellcasting abilities unless you are a god." ;)

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Thanee

If you dropped casting level to minimum of 17th (no effect other than a drop in range), the chance of being affected is only 17%. Taking you will fail the save on a 1, thats less than 1% chance (0.85%). Using any sort of variant rule in the ELH or DMG that 1 is not an automatic failure, the chance goes lower.

If i was a high level mage facing a party of about the same level as i was, i wouldnt really hesitate to open with a quickened haste, disjunction, time stop, then laying on the damage spells thick
 

For artifacts, I would do something like this.

The artifact gets a Will save DC as per the character, just like any magic item, *then* the percentage chance is rolled. It doesn't make much sense for a mage to be pretty much immune to a disjunction (via high will save) and for an artifact on his person to be destroyed.
 

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