How was the civil war not about slavery?

[gamerprinter]

Would it be mostly accurate (meaning not true for everybody, but applicable to a majority) that a Northerner or black person seeing a Confederate flag on a truck, government building or house is going to make them think "a racist put that there" more often than not.

The person who put that flag there MIGHT not be racist. But they sure are ignorant if they don't think others might not come to that conclusion because real racists have adopted the symbol for their own.

Well I'm a northerner and I don't think that.

If I see it in a public building or location, I think this must be a sight important during the civil war for the south - and nothing more.

Or, I think of "Dukes of Hazzard" - which to me is childish.

So while it has negative connotations to a degree, racism is not what comes to mind.

 

[billd91]

Well I'm a northerner and I don't think that.

If I see it in a public building or location, I think this must be a sight important during the civil war for the south - and nothing more.

Or, I think of "Dukes of Hazzard" - which to me is childish.

So while it has negative connotations to a degree, racism is not what comes to mind.

I confess that I'm more likely to think "ignorant, redneck punk" than racist... though that's in part because they probably don't realize it might be off-putting to their black neighbors because of its racist connotations.

 

[gamerprinter]

I confess that I'm more likely to think "ignorant, redneck punk" .

Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at too. Though I couldn't think of a nice way to put it - so Duke's of Hazzard = ignorant redneck punk.

 

[Thunderfoot]

Watch that redneck comment city-slicker

Talk about a term that has changed over the years - now meaning a little educated white trash individual
Original usage - anyone who worked doing outdoor manual labor for a living (usually farmers), owing to the usually sunburned/tan color of the back of their neck (ie red). Related to the often racial inflammatory term "wet-back" which originally was due to the sweat stain on the shirts of Hispanic migrant workers caused by hard work in the fields and orchards farming (and the fact that their necks couldn't turn redder.).

So originally in casual conversation a discussion of rednecks and wet-backs referred to farmers of different racial origins. It's amazing how time alters perception isn't it?
And who says rural farm kids grow up to be ignorant and uneducated?

 

[Chairman7w]

I take personal responsibility for my actions but I refuse to feel guilty or like I lack honor because of someone else actions.

I don't know if this makes any sense to you.

Good stuff here. I get ya Elf Witch!

(raises his drink to toast)

 

[Umbran]

Related to the often racial inflammatory term "wet-back" which originally was due to

That term has multiple origins - the other major one is from having gotten wet swimming across the Rio Grande to get into the USA.

I confess that I'm more likely to think "ignorant, redneck punk" than racist... though that's in part because they probably don't realize it might be off-putting to their black neighbors because of its racist connotations.

Actually, they're punks because they know darned well about the racist connotations, and they want to cheese people off with it.

 

[Thunderfoot]

That term has multiple origins - the other major one is from having gotten wet swimming across the Rio Grande to get into the USA. <SNIP>

Yeah, I think a lot of those were created well after the term was in use. (and most of them are very racially motivated.) But, who can really say?

Anyway, there needs to be more blacks, reds, and browns playing and publishing RPGs. That way, a lot of this stuff would go away just because the right information would start surfacing. I'm Thunderfoot, and I approve this message.

LOLZ