D&D General How would the earl react to the news that he unknowingly refused to let his son marry a future queen?


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He'd build a time machine and go back and warn himself. Which is why he would never need to react, as he didn't refuse the marriage!
If an archmage Wishes you back in time, and you never ask the archmage for a Wish in the future, does the archmage avoid the risk of losing Wish?
 

Mad_Jack

Legend
So, let's start with the most basic question: why did the father not know that the rejected match was a future queen?

Yeah, that's the thing that kinda sticks out to me as well. Being able to prove your noble lineage is the primary concern of anybody with a connection to royalty or a hereditary title. If someone is anywhere in line to inherit the throne of a kingdom, then everybody in that kingdom knows it. And anyone who's anyone in any of the neighboring kingdoms is going to know as well. The guy would have to be incredibly out of touch to not know who that woman was. Plus, if the baroness is looking to get married to this guy's son, the first thing she'd do is provide her lineage to prove what a good match she'd be for his son.
It'd be one thing if the guy had already promised his son to someone else and was now honor bound to go through with it regardless of a better match turning up, but there's no way the guy doesn't thoroughly check the lineage of someone looking to arrange a marriage to his son.
 
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aco175

Legend
If an archmage Wishes you back in time, and you never ask the archmage for a Wish in the future, does the archmage avoid the risk of losing Wish?
You would go back in time and not need to ask the wizard for a wish and he would save having to age from casting it. Although wish likely does not age you anymore.
 


Yeah, that's the thing that kinda sticks out to me as well. Being able to prove your noble lineage is the primary concern of anybody with a connection to royalty or a hereditary title. If someone is anywhere in line to inherit the throne of kingdom, then everybody in that kingdom knows it. And anyone who's anyone in any of the neighboring kingdoms is going to know as well. The guy would have to be incredibly out of touch to not know who that woman was. Plus, if the baroness is looking to get married to this guy's son, the first thing she'd do is provide her lineage to prove what a good match she'd be for his son.
It'd be one thing if the guy had already promised his son to someone else and was now honor bound to go through with it regardless of a better match turning up, but there's no way the guy doesn't thoroughly check the lineage of someone looking to arrange a marriage to his son.
Yes, if the match is of very close royal descent no earl is going to give a damn that the wife is just a "baroness". Men used to risk the King's ire to go off and marry younger daughters with no prospect of succession (look at the noble who married Joan of Acre without Edward I's permission), no one's going to turn down a match with a prospective heir. (It is very, very unlikely to not know that someone has a reasonable possibility of succeeding, especially if they are a woman).
 



JMISBEST

Explorer
Yes, if the match is of very close royal descent no earl is going to give a damn that the wife is just a "baroness". Men used to risk the King's ire to go off and marry younger daughters with no prospect of succession (look at the noble who married Joan of Acre without Edward I's permission), no one's going to turn down a match with a prospective heir. (It is very, very unlikely to not know that someone has a reasonable possibility of succeeding, especially if they are a woman).
She's not a prospective heir to the throne, she is the heir to the throne
 

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