I also have the books [merged] (info on upcomming Power sources and more)

[Luinnar]

Is metamagic still in?

 

[jaldaen]

All At-Wills scale somewhat (generally improving to 2[W] at Epic). Cleric and Warlord Healing Word abilities scale as well. As for Fighter/Paladin/Wizard, I can't think of anything off hand. Maybe someone with the books handy can check.

Thanks... though I'm mainly concerned with scaling class features. I'm thinking the Healing/Inspiring Word for clerics/warlords might scale enough with level not to need an extra increase, but seeing all the strikers get an increasing class featuer makes me wonder about the other classes

 

[Caliber]

Thanks... though I'm mainly concerned with scaling class features. I'm thinking the Healing/Inspiring Word for clerics/warlords might scale enough with level not to need an extra increase, but seeing all the strikers get an increasing class featuer makes me wonder about the other classes

Perhaps I'm misreading your post, but just to clarify:

Cleric's Healing Word and Warlord's Inspiring Word DO scale with level. I think they go to +2d6 healing at 6th, and follow some progression or other.

As for the other classes, no idea. I'm at work (boring!) and can't check.

 

[Caliber]

Is metamagic still in?

Not in any recognizable form. There are feats that allow you to alter your magic in ways that may have been metamagic in 3E, but they're always on and cost nothing (except for the feat slot to pick them, I suppose)

Note that none of these feats give bonuses anywhere near what 3E's metamagic offers. Most are like +1 to this or that, or maybe shape out some squares from AEs or the like.

 

[jedrious]

Is metamagic still in?

the closest to metamagic you'll find are feats and class features that work better with powers with certain keywords

 

[melkoriii]

Clerics don't get any ranged weapon powers, but they have plenty of ranged attack spells. I'm not sure specifically what you'd like out of the build, but I'd advise that, as RAW stands, you have to start as a Ranger to take any of the Ranger PPs.

Edit: Looking at your post, I notice you say you want the character to primarily be a healer, in which case I'd advise definitely starting as Cleric. I'm not sure you'd be able to get enough healing out of the Cleric multiclass feat to really function as a group's primary healer (although you'd likely be a heck of a backup)

Thanks Caliber

Would you say that at any point (lvl) that multi-classing is anything like multi-classing?

As it stands your post reinforces my thoughts that 4ed Multi-classing is not multi-classing and just dabbling with a feat....

very disappointed and feeling misslead by wotc.

Hate having to get groups to house rule crap like this.

 

[jedrious]

Thanks... though I'm mainly concerned with scaling class features. I'm thinking the Healing/Inspiring Word for clerics/warlords might scale enough with level not to need an extra increase, but seeing all the strikers get an increasing class featuer makes me wonder about the other classes

Wizard has no scaling class features, Warlord Inspiring Word adds an additional d6 every 5 levels, Warlock curse increases every tier, Rogue sneak attack increases every tier, Ranger hunter's quarry increase every tier, Paladin divine challenge damage gains 3 damage per tier, Fighters have noscaling features, Cleric turn undead and healing word increase every 5 levels.
In addition all at-will attack powers scale up at 21st level

 

[jaldaen]

Cleric's Healing Word and Warlord's Inspiring Word DO scale with level. I think they go to +2d6 healing at 6th, and follow some progression or other.

That's actually exactly what I was wondering... the only difference seems to be that the extra healing for leaders goes up a bit faster than the striker's increased damage.

As for the other classes, no idea. I'm at work (boring!) and can't check.

Thanks for the clarification above...

 

[jedrious]

Thanks Caliber

Would you say that at any point (lvl) that multi-classing is anything like multi-classing?

As it stands your post reinforces my thoughts that 4ed Multi-classing is not multi-classing and just dabbling with a feat....

very disappointed and feeling misslead by wotc.

Hate having to get groups to house rule crap like this.

Paragon Multiclassing makes for a good side-by-side multiclass

 

[melkoriii]

Paragon Multiclassing makes for a good side-by-side multiclass

Really?

I was hoping for basically swapping one at-will or Encounter or daily power for my multi-classed powers (at-will for at-will ect..)

Also why are all Cleric Weapon powers melee?!

how did that make it past play testing?