I also have the books [merged] (info on upcomming Power sources and more)

[Spenser]

Note that Paragon Multiclassing does allow you to swap an at-will for your new class

Indeedy. But that's not a 1st-level thing.

Man, this thread moves fast! Thanks for clearing that up, guys.

 

[Caliber]

Thanks Caliber

Would you say that at any point (lvl) that multi-classing is anything like multi-classing?

As it stands your post reinforces my thoughts that 4ed Multi-classing is not multi-classing and just dabbling with a feat....

very disappointed and feeling misslead by wotc.

Hate having to get groups to house rule crap like this.

I know the multiclass rules get a lot of dislike piled on them, but to be honest I like them a lot. What you have to keep in mind though, is that taking a multiclass feat isn't going to let you perform as a full member of that class. That being the case though, I think you could make some pretty strong builds using the new multiclassing rules.

After the first multiclass feat there are three more you can take that let you exchange an Encounter/Utility/Daily power from your base class with one from your multiclass. The thing to keep in mind though, is that these powers are of your character level, so you don't have to worry about being stuck with just CLW because you only have one level in Cleric, or anything like that.

You may only have a handful of abilities from your multiclass, but you're actually quite competent within those abilities. Or at least, that's what my initial reading gave me.

 

[Caliber]

Really?

I was hoping for basically swapping one at-will or Encounter or daily power for my multi-classed powers (at-will for at-will ect..)

Also why are all Cleric Weapon powers melee?!

how did that make it past play testing?

I don't really think Clerics have that much history as ranged weapon users in the first place. On my brief skim through the books, only the Rogue and Ranger had ranged weapon powers. Other classes had melee weapon powers and ranged spell attacks. Of course, as splats come out, I wouldn't be surprised to see ranged Clerics (and all other sorts of wackiness) but the PHB is HUGE. If everything people wanted was in here we'd have a 600 page book that cost $70.

... Of course, I know people who wouldn't blink at buying said book, but that's perhaps another matter ...

Edit: As an addendum, I wanted to say that there ARE feats that let you swap Encounter/Utility/Daily powers from your base class to your multiclass, if you weren't aware of that. A Ranger multi'd into Cleric could take the Utility swap feat and gain a daily use of CLW (and CSW, and eventually Mass CLW at higher levels) or whichever other power they wanted to swap out.

 

[jaldaen]

Another question: What are the weapon proficiencies of the wizard? All simple melee and ranged? Or a specific subset of these?

 

[Saurdaux]

thanks!

Take a look at the warlord's level 29 powers, ain't it cinematic, ain't it BEAUTIFUL?

look for:
http://www.rpg-shop.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=201598&postcount=475

Defy Death Warlord Attack 29
warlord leaps to ally’s side and spare him from the jaws of death,
which means move twice speed (no OAs!), attack for 7[W], enemy's attack misses,
AND ally can spend healing surge... wow!

Cue the slow-motion "NoOOOOoooOOOOOO!!!" sequence.

Has anyone seen any info on domains at all, whether used in the traditional cleric sense, or just as a descriptor to gods?

 

[AkaKageWarrior]

Another question: What are the weapon proficiencies of the wizard?

dagger & quarterstaff (info from one of the guys over at WotC forum)

 

[Caliber]

Cue the slow-motion "NoOOOOoooOOOOOO!!!" sequence.

Has anyone seen any info on domains at all, whether used in the traditional cleric sense, or just as a descriptor to gods?

Hehe. Nice scene.

Re: domains, no sign of anything like it. However, each god had a feat that gives a worshipper a different use for their Channel Divinity ability. The KotS Cleric has the one for Bahamut, for example.

 

[Chibbot]

I might have missed this somewhere along the line, but I was wondering how the Warlord's Inspiring Word power works. Is it identical to the Cleric's Healing Word, as predicted, or does it behave somewhat differently?

Thanks.

 

[Rechan]

Another question: What are the weapon proficiencies of the wizard? All simple melee and ranged? Or a specific subset of these?

Dagger, Quarterstaff.

 

[melkoriii]

Oh one last thing (lol)

Do Multi-classed caster characters get access to rituals?