Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
In terms of making the setting popularly known, so something people want to play in? Probably more Salvatore than Greenwood.
D&D 5E (2014) I believe the Greyhawk Campaign setting was a missed opportunity for Wizards of the Coast.
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In terms of making the setting popularly known, so something people want to play in? Probably more Salvatore than Greenwood.
billd91
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I said the half-assed part mainly in jest. The Living Greyhawk Gazetteer was reasonably good, the Living Greyhawk Campaign was fun, a both Dungeon and Dragon offered adventures and materials for Greyhawk. So it's not like GH didn't get a lot of love in the 3e timeframe. The fact that the heavy work was done by volunteers in Living Greyhawk and by Paizo in the magazines really doesn't change the fact that GH fans got a lot of stuff to enjoy long after 1e.
Is it too much to ask for Greyhawk to be continued?
TarionzCousin
Second Most Angelic Devil Ever
Here's a crazy thought: Subcontract Paizo to write Greyhawk material for 5E.
I don't think that will happen, but I would love to see it!
Nebulous
Legend
Makes sense to me.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
It is; the core books reference it frequently, and Mike Mearls is on record as wanting to put out Greyhawk products.
It will happen; just a question of format.
the Jester
Legend
I never, ever saw any Living Greyhawk stuff. You know why? Because it wasn't available to the general public.
As for the mags, I will agree that they had some awesome GH content. But squirreling it away in the magazines meant that there were no real sourcebooks produced, though I keep hearing good stuff about the LGHG. So there was... one. Which, you know, I only ever saw on a shelf once, at one FLGS; I don't think it was pushed very hard or advertised very well.
I mean, there was probably great homebrew material written by plenty of home DMs for Greyhawk, too, but I just don't think WotC has ever really given GH more than half-hearted support. The 3e era was perfect for it- GH was the 'default setting', for God's sake!- but if you wanted to have as much as a map of the setting, you had to track down, was it two or four? issues of Dragon, several of which never even reached my FLGS (I'm not sure if this was a demand issue or a FLGS issue or what).
I can't count stuff that wasn't official Greyhawk material with the label on it that you could buy on the shelf, so the Gazeteer is about it for 'full-assed' support, in my opinion.
Anything that carries on the Greyhawk Wars and From the Ashes stories is a little difficult for the audience to embrace. They need to rededicate the setting to just before then, before it was "blown up".
I wouldn't bet on it, but we'll see.
While I agree those and other items such as alot of novels do make FR a more a better choice(never mind in my opinion is a crappy setting), and I'm not mad that they choose it. I get that.
What pisses me off to no end is the fact the FR has enough lore that you should not Fing pillage my favorite setting for your crappy one for adventures. Elemental evil and the big T are NOT realms lore. Its strickly part of of Greyhawk and leave it the F there if your not going to breath greyhawk any life. Its been treated half-assed for as long as I can remember. If your not going to give it good treatment, leave its lore alone. I'm sick and tired of folks telling me Greyhawk wont sell and other nonsense. If you give it the half assed treatment it got in 3rd and before, it wont sell. If they treated FR the same way as they have greyhawk, FR wouldnt sell either!
if they keep pillaging Greyhawk lore and items there wont be anything left for it to sell us or want to play in Greyhawk! Its almost enough to go back to Pathfinder instead of 5th.
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