I hate cat-people, dog-people, lion-people, etc

reanjr said:
Ummm... My memory is sometimes flaky, but wasn't the original minotaur tauric with a bull's head? And wasn't it begotten through the union of a human female and Zeus in the shape of a bull (making it half-bovine)?
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Never was a fan of these manimals or whatever you want to call them. But I do miss the pig-like orcs from earlier D&D.
 

EL issues

I really enjoy animal-based humanoids. I think D&D 3ed has expanded their "pool" of such creatures greatly and enjoyably.
In particular, I'm especially glad that not all of the animal-based humanoids are EL+0. That's what generates a lot of the blandness that many of you are complaining about.
Probably my favorites of the 3e bunch are the Loxos (Elephant Men) and the Yakmen. Both have unique abilities. Both have unique descriptions.
 

All Hail and All Bow To The Great Rumpus Cat!

My Daughter is 3 years old.

All day everyday is Cats the Broadway musical.

Everyday and All day is the Broadway Musical Cats.

Over and Over and Over and Over and Over.

How can the youngling consortium and thier bedeviled conspiracy be defeated?

So one day I'm just sitting there working on the campaign, and in the background I hear "Oh, well, I Never! Was there ever a cat so clever as..blah blah blah" and I look down and what is there in poencil on my notebook? A cat race! A BLOODY CAT RACE!

so I went to trash it, and my wife saw it and showed it to my daughter who liked it, so I had to complete it, and now I have CATS in my campaign.

I have one thing to say: The Felis Sapiens cat Rave from Red Dwarf are cool.

But there's only so much Rum Tum Tugger and Bustopher Jones a dad can take...

:(
 

Ed Cha said:
Never was a fan of these manimals or whatever you want to call them. But I do miss the pig-like orcs from earlier D&D.

All I see is those Pig Guards from Jabba's palace.

My SW memory fails me now. :\
 

woodelf said:
Can you give an example on a non-lazy choice, one that doesn't rely on well-established tropes, or twists them significantly? 'Cause if it ain't mythology-inspiried humanoid animals, and it sure isn't the blandified Tolkien-derived races of D&D3E, what else do we see showing up in fantasy RPGs, especially D20 System RPGs?

Well from Oathbound there are asheraks (large skull-headed winged striped humanoids), silvers (humanoid abberations that look like melted metal and consume metal), lunars (4 eyed humanoids that shapeshift into an animal that only looks like a canine from a long distance), faust (black, emaciated goblins), haze (eyeless telepaths with horns), pickers (small reptile people who see magic auras), aurads (colorful people who can make matter out of magic), dolphins (not humanoid), hovara (similar to the cloaker and manta ray in form, fly and has magical blood), and scar (beautiful humanoids infected with a skin parasite that gives them abilities in exchange for their looks). And then there are animal humanoids like vogel (birds), valco (goats), frey (cats), dovers (dogs) and ceptu (jellyfish) plus derivitive people like the wygrith (drow that are more spider like).

That is what annoys me about people who complain that OB is full of furries- they are missing the really cool non-furry races.
 

reanjr said:
Ummm... My memory is sometimes flaky, but wasn't the original minotaur tauric with a bull's head? And wasn't it begotten through the union of a human female and Zeus in the shape of a bull (making it half-bovine)?
You're mixing up a couple of myths.

The original minotaur was the result of the mating of Pasiphae (wife of Minos, king of Crete) and a sacrificial bull which had been sent him by Poseidon. She got Daedalus the inventor to make her a wooden bull to climb into and ... 9 months later out popped a little minotaur :D

Zeus, in the shape of a bull, carried of Europa and mated with her. Different myth altogether.
 

reanjr said:
Ummm... My memory is sometimes flaky, but wasn't the original minotaur tauric with a bull's head? And wasn't it begotten through the union of a human female and Zeus in the shape of a bull (making it half-bovine)?

No, no, no!

Zeus did wildshape into a bull a couple of times (notably to kidnap Europa), but he didn't sire the Minotaur.

It's Poseidon who's to blame for that monster (and for the Medusa, as well). And Minos.

Gather 'round, ye kids, it's tale time!

Once upon a time, there was a King of Crete named Minos. He gave his name to his civilization, the Minoans, and to a mythological monster, the Minotaur.
Why a monster? Because it's his fault, the fault of his hubris, the fault of thinking he could cheat a god!
Minos' island country relied a lot on sea travels, for trading and pillaging and doing all the kinds of things people with boats did in these ancient times. So he thought it would be a good idea to gain the favors of the God of the Sea, Poseidon. Sounds quite like a plan, right?
So, Minos grabbed his cellphone, made Posy's number, and called.
"Hello there, Posy, old pal, it's me, Minos, remember? That bearded king on the island."
Dude, I know of 4873 bearded kings of an island in this dang sea. You could be a bit more precise. But nevermind, I'm a god, so I get you. What's up?
"Well, I though it would be great to burn you a big bull in offering to show you I'm your buddy, but I'm afraid I don't have any bull that's kewl enough for a god like you. So I wanted to check if it would be alright with you to sacrifice a not-so-great-looking bull 'cause I don't have any better in stock."
It would be insulting, mate. Let me propose you a deal -- I give you a bull, and then you sacrifice it to me. Sounds fair?
"So you give me a bull for me to give it to you, and then we're buddies? It's a done deal, dude!"
Alright, then. Look on the shore tomorrow.
And then Poseidon hanged the phone.
On the morrow, there was a miracle on the beach. Out of the sea foam rose a wonderful white bull, mighty and healthy, powerful and awe-inspiring. A celestial bull if there ever was one. (Or maybe was it axiomatic instead? Well, whatever.)
So glorious was the bovine that Minos thought it would be a shame to sacrifice it before the bull could impregnate the royal cowherd with its quasi-divine genetics.
So, Minos did what any greedy farmer king would do, and kept the axiomatic bull in his stables, and instead sacrificed one of his mundane bulls.
Of course, ol' Poseidon was not fooled by the subterfuge. Vexated and furious to be so humiliated by a mortal that pretended to be his friend, he plotted a clever and perverted revenge.
So you fell in love my my bull, hey? Let's see the look on your face when your darling Pasiphae fall, too! The money I'll make out of the Pay-Per-View of this will more than make up for this slight!
And after pronouncing those terrible words, which implied such awful, grandma-unsafe things, he took his voodoo doll of Queen Pasiphae and cast a spell out of Valar Production's only book on her. Immediately, Queen Pasy felt unnatural urges and wanted to get naughty with the beautiful bull. With the ingeniosity mankind has always shown for murdering other people or satisfying freaky fetishes, she tasked the famous engineer Daedalus of crafting for her a follow cow statue in which she could fit in for... You guess what.
Anyway, once's Pasy's geased fantasy was fulfilled (and Posy got rich selling this piece of snuff movie to the other gods), (un)nature took its course and nine month later, King Minos was the (un)happy (adoptive) father of a baby that wasn't exactly human.
Once again, Daedalus was tasked with a royal job, this time creating a labyrinth in which the proof that Minos had been cuckholded by a bovine would be hidden forever.
And when Minos means forever, he means forever. No witness. Daedalus and his son Icarus where marrooned on a tiny island and left to rot, forgotten by the world. Being the clever man he is, Daedalus crafted artificial wings so his son and himself could fly away to a more civilized place, and Icarus enjoyed flying so much that he soared too high, and then... You know the story.
Anyway, Minos, not wanting to pay the bill for his bastard son's food, had the bright idea of vainquishing Athens and demanding for tribute that the city would sent every year some of its finest young maidens and ephebians for a little pizza-delivery trip in the labyrinth. One day, one of those conscripted lad, a certain Theseus, had the bright idea of wooing a smart girl known as Ariadne, who herself was Minos' non-bastard daughter. Well, thanks to Ariadne's thread, Theseus was able to find the way out, so he went with a sword, killed the Minotaur, went out of the maze, and rode to the sunset with Ariadne, and they lived happily thereafter, while Pr. Minos' Secret Moon Base autodestructed. Or something.​

Next time, I'll tell you how the same Poseidon defiled a temple to Athena by raping the young Medusa inside, and how to punish her for her crime of letting herself be raped in her temple, Athena cursed her with serpentine hair and a so ugly face that just looking at it could get you petrified in horror. Remember that in these time, they hadn't yet invented morales for stories.

And now, sleep tight and dream sweet, kids!
 

Gez,
That was truely inspired.
Wow. Now I can have my morning coffee to images for bovine love and Buttercup's erotic utter dances....

Who needs biscuits?
-Suzi
 

I'll admit, I'm in agreeance as I'm not an animal race fan, though some of them are done well. I wasn't a fan of all the humanoid shaped aliens in Star Trek either. Lame.
 

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