I hate Christmas

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Dingleberry said:
If you're actually doing it because you think it will make for a better world? Absolutely. Send me the tax receipt and I'll happily make a donation of equal amount to a charity I think makes for a better world.

Good plan. In fact, I've just donated $600 to the local humane society because I think it'll make for a better world.

I didn't know all your names though, so I used my own.
 

marshmallow said:
You keep saying "the giver knew this" and "the giver knew that." Since we will never really know their side, we don't know how much of this is true and how much of it is warped by your perspective and biases. But be careful of what you think you know about what other people know, and what are your assumptions about what other people know.

In these cases, I know they knew. Because I had previously told them, or it had come up in other contexts that delivered the information directly to them.

For example, the tie rack. The giver helped me fix my current wooden tie rack to my closet wall. We even talked about the price of the item when we were doing this. He couldn't have not known when he got me the chinsy plastic one.

For example, the sweater vest. My sister in law (who got me the gift) had remarked at one point (Thanksgiving that year I think) that her husband looked good in sweater vests and she thought I should get some. I told her that I don't like them (for me) and don't wear them.

How much am I assuming here?
 

buzzard said:
OK, for all you people who think SR is satan incarnate (which seems to be plenty of you). The popular sentiment here appears to be that the spirit of the gift matters more than the gift itself or the desires of the recipient.

Is it OK if I give $20 is each of your names to the Church of Scientology because I think it will make for a better world?

buzzard
As long as you believe that it's the right place to send money to, then thanks. (My name is Giles Kiser, BTW, in case you do do that.) You don't mind if I send a donation in your name to the American Heart Association?

Kane
 

Warlord Ralts said:
Sure.

Thanks man, for thinking of me. I didn't know you actually cared enough to give me a gift, and I find it odd you would give to them in my name, but thanks for the gift!

Man, now I have to get you something.

Seriously, you show me that you did that, in my name (Timothy Michael, BTW) I'll get you something.


Hmm, and to think I imagine I had picked an organization which was considered loathesome enough by most to have people get my point. However were I to actually offer a thing of this sort it would be a gift which actually suits my disposition. I could shell out a few bucks to the NRA in some people's name. Heck, I'd probably even be civil enough to send it to the education branch which is tax deductable and not involved in lobbying.

In the interest of money where my mouth is, I will send $20 to the NRA education fund (Eddie Eagle and all that gun safety jazz) in the name of the first five of you naysayers to drop me an email.

Let me add one detail. I don't want a gift in return to the charity of your choice. I'll pass.

buzzard
 

You know, that bit about making a donation in the name of a charity, and giving the slip to you, as a gift, is one of the biggest bunch of BS anyone has come up with.

A lot of corporations have replaced Christmas bonuses with this.

To me, it's impersonal, and smacks of forwarding ones own political views.

And it's not even really a gift.

It wasn't meant to benifit or delight someone, it's done because nobody would ever DARE complain that a donation was made to charity.

See, if Storm Raven was complaining that every year his father made a contribution to MANBLA or something in his name, and that it not only offended him, but wasn't even really a gift, I'd definately be on his side.

Hey, Storm Raven, any gifts you don't want, donate them to the local Salvation Army in your Father's name, and give him the slip as a Christmas present.

That'll make your point AND he can't complain, because you gave to charity.
 


eabha said:
This whole thing is just sad and in no way helping me get into the spirit of the season.

Actually, I'd like to thank Storm Raving for starting this thread.

It has made me see how lucky I am to have a family that cares about me, even though sometimes they don't give me what I want, but rather what I need. It has made me see that they will always be there for me when I need them, even though I may not want them.

So, thank you, Storm Raven, for this thread. I did not want it, and it certainly wasn't on any list, but thank you anyway.

EK, who will be grateful for a loving family this Christmas.
 

Storm Raven said:
I may just regift it to my brother. He likes pens. I just have to double check that they didn't get him a pen too.

If they did, though, just such a pen is on my Christmas list, so you needn't worry. We'll consider it a Public Santa, which will help you participate in the season without being surprised. After all, I already have your list. :)
 

Storm Raven said:
Usually, I get them something they ask for. You see, I practice what I preach.
Then don't complain, don't come off like you did.

You come off as "I didn't get what I want!"

You should have stated: "Every year, I buy them stuff from thier lists, and every year, they blow my list off to get me gifts I didn't really want."

Don't give them jack this year then. Or give them other things, not revenge gifts, but things you think they might like.

If they bug you about them, tell them: "It's in the giving, not in the getting."
 

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