I hope Eberron is a flop. Am I evil?

[Nisarg]

I have developed an intense dislike for Eberron, and made it vocally known elsewhere on these fora, and yet I hope WoTC makes a killing with it.

The better they do, the better we do.

Nisarg

 

[Kesh]

Beg to differ all you want. You're still wrong! Leave the cave of opinion, and cast your mind's eye on the true form of knowledge.

(Man, "EVIL" -- it is right there on pp. 134-136 of the PHB!)

You obviously haven't read the Eberron book.

 

[Apocalyptic Kitty]

I hope Eberron does well. Really well.

Why is that? Because Eberron really knows how to have a war. None of this novel trilogy, over in half a year, business. No, they have wars that last a hundred years and kill millions, and that's a grea start!

 

[Ranger REG]

I'm sure Eberron is a great campaign and folks are having loads of fun with it but dead wishes nothing but evil for the setting.

dead wants the money-making machine called WotC-MegaCorp to really make a loss on this one.

dead wants them to realise that they've got enough great settings up their Armani shirt sleeves without having to churn out new material.

These are the secret thoughts of dead.

Am I evil?

Only if you take pleasure in seeing a company go by way of TSR, FASA, GDW, etc.

If I were WotC, I'd re-release:

Mystara -- heeeeeeeaps of material here. And a decent fanbase, I think. You could also re-release all the old modules. Don't bother updating them in a new timeline, just present them as is with 3E rules. (WotC has an obsession with updating timelines.)

It's an obsession that is copied from TSR. Remember when they update the Forgotten Realms to 2nd edition and introduced firearms (because arquebus is part of the equipment list in the standard PHB)? To this day, I have never allowed firearms technology in my FR games.

As for Mystara, you have to look back and asked yourself, what did TSR do wrong, because Mystara didn't catch on well, sales-wise.

Spelljammer -- just as a one-off book; a "campaign-option" if you like.

See my response in the Spelljammer thread.

Planescape -- also a one-off "campaign-option" book.

I hear Monte Cook is gathering some of the original Planescape writers for a reunion book. I don't know if it will be printed under WotC or his own Malhavoc Press label.

Greyhawk -- if GH is gonna be the *default* setting, then I think it should get support just like FR -- otherwise make FR the default setting! A recent poll on EN World showed us the GH is just as popular as FR. I don't know, maybe there's just a lot of old-school folk on EN World.

Let's deal with FR first. It's not a standard setting for D&D. It's too high-fantasy for a high fantasy RPG, and also too high-magic. It's an unconventional D&D setting that cannot be considered a default setting for the standard D&D rules. IOW, it's like Eberron in the 90's.

As for Greyhawk, it is obvious that WotC have moved on and putting much of the resource behind Eberron. Also, a lot of GH fans have criticized that the GH material scattered throughout the core and supplementary D&D products does not exemplifies what Greyhawk means to them. And those writers that did GH have left.

(Of course, there have been a one-sided argument over which version of GH is better: the creator Gygax's, or the better writer Carl Sargent's, who have since retired from RPG design. But that's another story.)

Let's face it. D&D needs to reinvent themselves to attract new gamers of this generation. Now if you're lucky, you can steer your son or daughter from Eberron and be interested your stuff, but honestly, how many of you have actually been interested in your father's stuff when you were a kid?

 

[Geoff Watson]

Am I evil?
.

Yes.

Maliciousness, with no benefit for dead, so this is evil.

If there was something in it for dead, it might possibly be neutral, but Eberron flopping would make it less likely for other settings to be produced by WotC, so dead is stupid as well as evil.

Geoff.

 

[Doug McCrae]

Well I just checked out the Eberron website and I really like the look of it. I enjoy gonzo everything-including-the-kitchen-sink settings, which is very much what DnD has always been about, since the beginning. I'm also a huge fan of the pulps.

I fully intend to purchase Eberron thus making it infinitesimally more likely it will succeed and helping to foil dead's evil plan.

 

[Anabstercorian]

Yes, yes you are. But only because you refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

I hear Monte Cook is gathering some of the original Planescape writers for a reunion book. I don't know if it will be printed under WotC or his own Malhavoc Press label.

Malhavoc Press - the product is called Beyond Countless Doorways. It's not actually connected to Planescape, having its own cosmological setup, but the writers all note that it's pretty easy to use the planes they've created as demiplanes or layers of other planes.

 

[Tom Cashel]

Am I evil?

...

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

 

[nopantsyet]

WotC has released lots of products that I have not and likely will not purchase. But I don't wish failure on any product line. Every products that succeeds funds more projects, which means more books I may find useful. I would rather a company, which by nature produces products to make money, make money on those products rather than lose out on the good things they produce.

You may not like everything you're offered, but it's always a bad idea to bite the hand that does the feeding.