I hope Eberron is a flop. Am I evil?

[Asmor]

My feeling is that new settings are a good thing, as long as they're unique, as Eberron is. What's the difference between Greyhawk and FR? They're both very generic standard medieval fantasy settings. They may be fleshed out differently, but they're still fundamentally and aesthetically similar. I think they should dump FR altoghether, and maybe even Greyhawk as well. D&D by nature is a medieval fantasy game, and any unique settings will be derived from that idea. It makes sense IMHO to only bother fleshing out different settings that have something that sets them apart.

 

[stevelabny]

unlike everyone else...

are u evil? YES.

but evil in the grade-school bully way

more so than

full grown psycho serial killer way

 

[Remathilis]

No it's not.

As used in the phrase "the lesser of two evils", one evil must be lesser, ergo the evil is subjective or quantifiable.

Without going into logical debates, I think wishing ill on another person's business venture is certainly malice, but not the same as killing a baby seal on like TV.

 

[the Jester]

Well, I like Eberron and even though I don't anticipate running it, I bought it to mine for ideas.

It's full of great ideas- I hope it continues to provide them.

And I certainly wish Keith Baker success in his new career as a game designer!

So I hope Eberron is a success, and I intend to defeat your evil intent in mortal combat. With knives.

Or something like that, anyhow.

 

[Belegbeth]

As used in the phrase "the lesser of two evils", one evil must be lesser, ergo the evil is subjective or quantifiable..

Wrong. If something is quantifiable it cannot be subjective; rather it has to have an objective value -- otherwise how would we know whether it is "lesser" or "greater"? (50 lbs is less weight than 60 lbs -- that is quantifiable and thus objective. Tea is good or bad -- that is subjective.)

Anyway, check pp. 104-106 of PHB for the relevant definitions of evil.

Without going into logical debates ...

Sorry!

Anyway, as I said earlier, I hope Eberron does well, even though I do not especially like it. I just hope it doesn't become the "identity" of DnD in the future.

 

[Asmor]

Wrong. If something is quantifiable it cannot be subjective; rather it has to have an objective value -- otherwise how would we know whether it is "lesser" or "greater"? (50 lbs is less weight than 60 lbs -- that is quantifiable and thus objective. Tea is good or bad -- that is subjective.)

He did say quantifiable OR subjective, not and.

 

[BryonD]

I don't care for Eberron. That is no big deal, I'll keep playing with the stuff I do like and leave it at that.

However, beyond that I developed a negative attitude towards Eberron because of constant statements from pro-Eberron folks. Statements that negative elements of Eberron don't exist even though they do. And statements that Eberron provides postive elements when it doesn't do so any more than any other setting.

So, from an anti-Eberron person: I hope the market controls what happens. And, barring some internal stupidity on WotC part (possible but not probable) I will get that hope.

It appears that my tiny input to the market is on the minority side. At least for now. The market is what funds the very existance of D&D. For me to hope (much less expect) that WotC would put my preferences ahead of the market's desires would be pathetic.

If the market wants Eberron, the WotC supporting Eberron is what is best for D&D. Therefore, WotC supporting Eberron is what is best for anti-Eberron D&D gamers.

If anyone wants to become their own market by putting up a couple hundred thousand dollars to fund the design of their own personal dream setting, I am certain that WotC or many of the other highly capable designers who frequent these boards would be happy to enter negotiations with you. But, if you prefer to share the funding load with your other gamers, then you are going to have to settle for taking the consensus preference. From there you are free to adapt what you get and make what you want from that.

WotC supporting Eberron is what is best for anti-Eberron D&D gamers.

 

[Belegbeth]

He did say quantifiable OR subjective, not and.

Whoops -- I misread it! (But it's still not subjective. )

 

[Mouseferatu]

Not evil. Mean-spirited, selfish. And definitely ignorant.

About WotC in general. About the amount of money it pulls in with anything remotely related to RPG products. About the amount of money its employees make. About what they would do if Eberron flopped.

I have nothing to add that others haven't already said. I just had to chime in.

 

[Mark]

I hope Eberron is a flop. Am I evil?

Nope, just wrong.

Dead, wrong?