D&D General I lack knowledge of LN and CN monsters

[le Redoutable]

I play/read CN as a true opportunist who takes advantage of a frequently chaotic world. CN characters always come off "cooler" than other alignments because they aren't penned in by allegiances or alliances. They're kind of the "cats" of the realms. CG purr in your lap. CE topple everything off the table.

LN are the boring lot who serve the status quo even if they don't see it. LG serve the status quo and see it as righteous. LE serve the status quo but see its purpose as heretical. LN are administrators with side gigs.

For me, the Neutral alignments start the least interesting, and usually every new player really is ether NG or true N. Then when stuff happens, they gravitate to one pole or the other, but usually CN because they've been betrayed and either see the fun in reveling in the chaos or no longer trust the world.

TLDR: CN is the reluctant anti-hero, and almost everyone wants to be that eventually.

What about berserkers, or Conan,
By the way, do you know the villain Madman, opponent of the Hulk ?

 

[Norton]

What about berserkers, or Conan,
By the way, do you know the villain Madman, opponent of the Hulk ?

I'm speaking generally and certainly not outside of traditional D&D fantasy. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but not enough to move the needle for me.

 

[ECMO3]

Athlete

Team sports Lawful, individual sports chaotic. Generally Evil

Brute

Lawful Evil

Hunter

Neutral Good

Ruler

Lawful Evil

Teacher.

Neutral Evil grades K-12. College professors would generally lean towards true neutral

Craftsman

Neutral

Herbalist

Neutral Good

.judge ( was called inspector ).

Lawful Evil

Jeweller

Lawful Good

These are obviously generalities but central to this discussion is Lawful is based on established order, chaos is based on a freedom ideal, good is society-focused and evil is self-focused. So when I say someone is "evil" that means people in that profession tend to be more focused on themselves than on others.

 

[Stormonu]

A little puzzle for smart people

How would you place those basic professions relatively to alignment ?

Athlete
Brute
Hunter
Ruler
Teacher.
Craftsman
Herbalist
.judge ( was called inspector ).
Jeweller

I would not. Alignment does not define profession, it's an outlook on life and the people around you.

For example, using the Harry Potter teachers as an example, you can have a Chaotic Evil (Quirinus Quirrell) teacher through Chaotic Neutral (Gilderoy Lockheart) just as easily as a Lawful Evil (Severus Snape) or Lawful Good (Minerva McGonagall). As an aside, I'd put Albus Dumbledore as Neutral Good, Doloris Umbridge as Neutral Evil, Professor Sprout & Flitwich as Neutral (or Chaotic) Good, Hagrid and Trelawney as Chaotic Neutral, Moody and Filtch as Lawful Neutral, and Lupin as Lawful Good. There's arguments for being able to reclassify these individuals with different alignments, but this is my take.

 

[Stormonu]

Team sports Lawful, individual sports chaotic. Generally Evil

Lawful Evil

Neutral Good

Lawful Evil

Neutral Evil grades K-12. College professors would generally lean towards true neutral

Neutral

Neutral Good

Lawful Evil

Lawful Good

These are obviously generalities but central to this discussion is Lawful is based on established order, chaos is based on a freedom ideal, good is society-focused and evil is self-focused. So when I say someone is "evil" that means people in that profession tend to be more focused on themselves than on others.

So boxers, weightlifters and marathon runners are Chaotic Evil? I think you may want to serious rethink a lot of your responses.

This is why alignment shouldn't be tied to profession.

 

[Ath'kethin]

IMO the best and most comprehensive description of alignment is from 3.x. it describes its terms, describes how they intersect and merge, then gives an easy description of how a creature of a given alignment approaches life.

Here's a link!

Description :: d20srd.org

 

[Minigiant]

And as a huge monster manual fan who's read at least a dozen of them, that's really all I can think of.

This is because

LN is the "robot" alignment and generic D&D fantasy lacks "robots" outside of the 2 mentioned
CN is the "free spirit and alternate alignment" alignment and D&D Still doesn't' support other alignment systems.

 

[MichaelSomething]

When it comes to CN, don't listen to anyone else. Just do what you feel Is right.

 

[le Redoutable]

I have learned from CN friend is the smartness and easy laughing facilities of those brutes

 

[le Redoutable]

This is because

LN is the "robot" alignment and generic D&D fantasy lacks "robots" outside of the 2 mentioned
CN is the "free spirit and alternate alignment" alignment and D&D Still doesn't' support other alignment systems.

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