D&D 3.x I miss 3.5 edition

[DeadlyUematsu]

That isn't an edition issue. That is a player issue. I was part of many gaming groups where this was not a problem.

Was 3rd capable of this? Obviously yes. But people can do it with any source that has enough options and the ability to mix and match. People do it in 5e, too.

It is a player issue in the immediate sense. However... it would be silly to pretend 3E, in its design and marketing, was neutral. The edition gave min-maxers enormous room to operate and the surrounding community developed a substantial optimization culture around it. So yes, people can do this in any edition with enough options and mix-and-match potential, but that misses the point. What made 3E distinct was how unusually deep the roots of out-of-context optimization became, to the point that it overshadows the system's actual selling points.

 

[Jahydin]

Going back to it, I would run a mashup of 3.0, 3.5, and PF1 (more 3.0 and PF1 than 3.5), if my WIP system wasn't finished.

Sounds cool. Generally, what would you borrow from each one?

 

[neceros]

It is a player issue in the immediate sense. However... it would be silly to pretend 3E, in its design and marketing, was neutral. The edition gave min-maxers enormous room to operate and the surrounding community developed a substantial optimization culture around it. So yes, people can do this in any edition with enough options and mix-and-match potential, but that misses the point. What made 3E distinct was how unusually deep the roots of out-of-context optimization became, to the point that it overshadows the system's actual selling points.

I agree