I need an escape button

[0-hr]

Thanks for the advice all. Raising my grapple bonus wouldn't have helped unless it was 20 or more. Doing damage wasn't really an option (it was healthy, I had 8 hit points).

So I guess I'm looking for other easy to activate items (preparing a potion might be tough in a grapple) and wanted to make sure there wasn't something like Gem Magic or such in 3.5 (one shot spell holder with hands-free operation).


EDIT: Hmm, I also just realized that a Cape of the Montebank conflicts with my Cloak of Resistance. Does the Montebank really have to go on the back? Being a travel spell, I would think boots would be a better slot. (Yes, I'm trying to avoid the reslotting cost, druids are poor.)

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

EDIT: Hmm, I also just realized that a Cape of the Montebank conflicts with my Cloak of Resistance. Does the Montebank really have to go on the back? Being a travel spell, I would think boots would be a better slot. (Yes, I'm trying to avoid the reslotting cost, druids are poor.)

Boot or maybe a helm -- thematically it is a Lesser Helm of Teleportation type device.

 

[Jubilee]

Isn't there a vest of resistance in one of the forgotten realms that costs the same as a cloak of resistance? I believe you can wear a cloak and a vest at the same time.

/ali

 

[Nail]

.....The simplest interpretation seemed that it worked just like the freedom of movement spell. Also, the part about magic doesn't seem to be phrased as a restriction, but I'm curious to hear other input.[/I]

The Travel Domain power has been argued about before. The key is to read the actual text, rather than glossing over it.

Granted Powers: For a total time per day of 1 round per cleric level you possess, you can act normally regardless of magical effects that impede movement as if you were affected by the spell freedom of movement.

Now answer these questions:

• Is grappling a "magical effect"?
• Is grappling a "magical effect that impedes movement"?
• Does this power apply to nonmagical effects?
• Does this power give you all of the benefits of the spell Freedom of Movement?
• Does this power have anything to do with grappling, really?

The phrase "magical effects that impede movement" is pretty clear, nicht wahr?

 

[mvincent]

The Travel Domain power has been argued about before.

Then it stands to reason there is room for interpretation.

The key is to read the actual text

You are implying that we did not, and we somehow missed the text you highlighted for us. Such incorrect condescending discredits your grasp on the subject, but I commend your mastery of the obvious.

The text could be parsed as:
"you can act normally, regardless of magical effects that impede movement, as if you were affected by the spell freedom of movement."

or rewritten as:
"you can act normally as if you were affected by the spell freedom of movement, regardless of magical effects that impede movement."

Which implies that the middle part could be removed to read:
""you can act normally as if you were affected by the spell freedom of movement."
... without substantially altering the intent since the "regardless" part is not phrased as a qualifier.

To repeat for clarity: "regardless" is not a word used as a requisite or qualifier.

 

[Nail]

Then it stands to reason there is room for interpretation.

As always.

....or rewritten as:

Fortunately, we're not taking about how the rules could be rewritten. We're talking about how they are actually written.

Your first parsing:

"you can act normally, regardless of magical effects that impede movement, as if you were affected by the spell freedom of movement."

shows my original point.

When "can you act normally"?

 

[moritheil]

I believe mvincent stated in his opening post on the topic that he acknowledges the possibility of a strict RAW reading, which would curb the usefulness of the domain. My reading of his posts indicates that he just finds it simpler to run it as though it is freedom of movement for X rounds/day.

So what exactly is this discussion about?

Mvincent, are you contesting the RAW reading that you acknowledged now that Nail is calling you on it? Nail, are you just underlining the RAW limitations?

 

[Nail]

Hmmm....good point.

IMC, we've found the RAW reading to work well, and be balanced. IOW: what other domain gives the full effect of a 4th level spell at will (and after 4 levels of Clr or so, the domain duration is in essence unlimited)?

 

[mvincent]

Mvincent, are you contesting the RAW reading that you acknowledged

I am stating that RAW is subject to some interpretation. I conceded that the more likely interpretation is as Nail interprets it, but I also acknowledged the legitimacy of it being interpreted otherwise (since the word "regardless" is typically not used as a requisite or qualifier). As noted above: the only example I could find on the WotC site seems to correspond to that second interpretation, which is just possibly what the writers intended.

I'd be happy if an official resolution was given by WotC.