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I want to buy a gaming computer. Help me, please.

I'm figuring around Christmas this year I'll be in the market for a gaming system. This will probably mean a new computer (since mine is a '99 model, with a 6 GB hard drive), but I'm also willing to consider an X-Box 360 (I don't think PS3 will be out yet, right?).

I want to be able to play Neverwinter Nights 2 (and Planescape: Torment, but I don't think that's an issue). I'll be upgrading pretty much everything -- monitor, mouse, keyboard, printer, maybe scanner -- but I won't need the kitschy peripherals like a webcam, a remote control, or things like that.

I haven't bought a new computer in nearly 8 years, so I don't really know who's good, who's cheap, and so on. Can you help me out? Thanks.
 

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PS3 will be out by Christmas (or is at least planned to be).

PS3 $600 (or 500 with slightly dumbed down version)
360 $400 (possibly cheaper, some expect MS to drop prices when PS3 comes out)

Unless you have a particular game in mind, price is pretty much the only difference between PS3 and 360, and MS is the clear winner on that front.

If you are not looking to play the latest and greatest, almost anything will do on computer. If you are playing the latest and greatest and you want to do LAN events, think about a laptop (or, more correctly, a desktop replacement).

In my experience, processor speed is not very important for games, but processor architecture is. In other words a P4 2.8GHz will run games almost as good as a P4 3.4GHz. Where you will see the difference is in your video card and amount (and to a certain extent, speed) of memory.

Dell has plenty of bundles that include printer and printer/scanner combos and will really give you alot of choices of price range to power. They also own the Alienware brand, but this is mostly worthless as you pay for the case of the computer as much as the internals.

Unless you plan to get a laptop, in my opinion, there's not much else choice out there. Gateway (from what I've heard) has been on a steady decline in the past few years. They also own the E Machines brand whose main benefit is the computer will come with almost nothing on it. Antivirus, software firewall, four different IM clients, and a few quicklaunchers can slow any machine down significantly, but especially if you don't have much memory. E Machines also tend to be very reasonable for their price, but I've heard their choice of components is based solely on cost and not on performance.

HP is a baseline brand that serves many people well, but I have personally experienced poor reliability on them (and their subsidiary Compaq).

Sonys are known to have alot of nice extras, but for price, they usually don't do so well against the competition. Reliability is somewhere between an HP and Gateway.

Perhaps a bit more information would be helpful, so I know what you are looking into.
 

Are you going to build it yourself, or buy a pre-built one? For building, check out Ars Technica's System Guides:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200606.ars
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200605.ars

I just built a computer based off of their "Hot Rod" specs - as in, I built it 3 days ago. It's running great. I spent about $1000, not including monitor.

The guides will probably be rewritten within a month or so to account for the new Intel Core Duo 2 processor, which currently has the best price/performance ratio.

If you don't want to build, just go Dell. Some people have had problems with their service, but the vast majority get great service and a decent product. Plus, if you watch for deals you can find some really good ones.

Keep in mind that if you get an Xbox 360, you'll need to pay extra for Xbox Live if you want to play online. It's not a lot, comparatively, and if you have other friends online it can definately be worth it. The PS3 is a mystery wrapped in an enigma stuffed inside a rumor burrito. There's no hard data on it, so don't depend on it until you see it listed for sale at your local retail outlet.
 

December should be just about the right time to buy, memory cost aside.

You will want the following:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600. Accept no substitutes. This thing is cheap and fast, fast, FAST. It currently beats the fastest processor offered by AMD by about 15%. The price of the E6600 caused AMD to slash prices on its top processor by over $500. You can get an E6600 for about $350.

Mainboard: Get an ASUS SLI capable board with the latest NForce chipset. Sound and lan will be built on to the mainboard. NForce sound is excellent - don't feel as if you've gone cheap on it - you haven't. I hate to say it, but if NWN2 is your game of choice, you will probably want to have Quad SLI support on your mainboard.

Memory: You want 2 GB of DDR2 800 ram. That's what you want. That is not, however, what you should buy right now. There is a memory shortage on DDR2 800 and memory is WAY overpriced right now. Get 1 GB now and wait for the price to come down next spring to pick up the other stick.

Video Card: You have expressed an interest in NWN2. This is what determines your purchase - along with the monitor listed below. On this point, I know my stuff - it's a professional interest of mine :)

NWN2 uses Shader Model 3 and is a per pixel lit game. That means that for every pixel on the screen, the game produces lighting information for the GPU to process and display. It makes for a gorgeous game - but at a significant hardware cost.

At this time, for NWN2 you really have only two choices for very good performance: a 7900GTX card with 512mb of VRAM or a 7950GX2 with 1 GB of VRAM.

The 7950GX2 is essentially SLI on a stick. It's TWO video cards in one. Prices have dropped and they are now between $500 and $600.

Which one to get depends on your monitor. If you go to a large widescreen format monitor, for very good performance with all the bells and whistles turned on, you will want TWO 7950GX2's arranged in Quad SLI mode. That's about $1100 worth of video GPUs.

Sorry man - you asked. I explain why a little more below.

Monitor: You will want a flat screen LCD with a low latency (8 ms or less - (4ms or less? - even better) and excellent 2000:1+ contrast.

The real issue here is size - and it's damned important. In previous games, 3d geometry was lit on a per vertex basis. In Shader model 3 - it is lit on a per pixel basis. What's the difference? Easy: Per vertex scales with image size, per pixel does not.

(Note: Shader Model 4 -the "Unified Shader" coming out next year blends per-pixel and per-vertex to produce a shader that takes some advantage of scaling. SM 3.0, however, does not. It does not scale. And NWN2 is a SM 3.0 game.)

The Practical Difference:

1) Vertex Lit: In a vertex lit game, the GPU power needed to run a 17" monitor is exactly the same as a 19" monitor or a 21" or a 20.5" widescreen. It's all the same, more or less.

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2) Per-Pixel Lighting: In a per pixel lit game - everything changes. Now you need to pay attention to the total number of pixels on your screen resolution. Every pixel you add to your monitor needs to be lit by the GPU on an individual basis. The increase in pixels adds tremendously to your required GPU power on your video card.

All things being equal, you would want a 20.5" widescreen LCD running at 1600x1050 resolution. Something like the Dell 2005FPW or similar less expensive models now making their way into the market are all great choices and you'll LOVE the look.

For NWN2 though, to run on that monitor, you will need a 7950GX2 and, imo, two of them in Quad SLI mode to be real happy.

Hard Drive: Dealer's Choice. Get a SATA 3GB/sec drive of a size you are comfortable with. Bigger cache size is always better - but it's not that critical.

DVD Writer: Dealer's Choice. LG, Lite-on, etc. Does not matter much. Spend $40-$45 and you'll be happy with the results.

Case: Get an Antec Sonata II with a 450 pws. You'll be happy you did.

Mouse and Keyboard: Logitech MX Duo - whatever the latest model is - get it. A little more expensive in the short run - but they last a long time and you'll be very happy with the quality. Given the length of time the hardware lasts - you'll break even or save money on it. Logitech's warranty support is excellent too and no muss, no fuss.

Printer: Prices are coming down on color lasers. They are dipping south of $300 right now - but they aren't quite where you want them, yet. Wait a few years for one of those.

In the meanwhile, the Samsung 2010 monochrome laser you can get for about $100 which gives excellent output. I have a Samsung 1740 - lesser quality - and you can find those for about $40-50. You'll be happy with either, in all honesty.

Do not get an inkjet. There is absolutely no reason to do that now. Inkjets are vanishing from the marketplace and in 2-3 years time - they will be gone.

The toner cartridges actually cost about the same as a new printer in either case. But you can get those refilled (do not do this yourself!!) for about $50 and you'll get 2000-3000 pages out of a full cart. You'll be very happy with this choice.

Scanner: Go to the local Best Buy and look at a stand alone scanner made by HP. Pay about $100 or so for it. Go someplace else to get the USB 2 cable. (They kill you on the cable cost). Ignore the request for an extended warranty. Scanners last a long time and the only concern is the lamp. HP manufactures using only quality lamps at their $100 price point. In normal use, you probably will replace the scanner 5 years or so from now long before it actually wears out.
 
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You can get a Dell system for the best money, and the machine will be a workhorse far longer and better than most others. For the optimum, super-duper gaming system you might want to check out Alienware. They'll find the graphics & sound card for you, and throw in gobs of memory that costs extra with an HP or Sony.

An Xbox or PS3 will be able to run the games, but a computer can do so much more. I know I don't have the time to worry about using my PS2 & computer, so my PS2 sits as the DVD player. And any computer you get these days will be able to run what you need.
 

For a gaming system, I would assemble the parts myself or get an Alienware system before Dell (Actually, now a subsidiary of Dell - but Alienware makes their systems specifically for games and they don't cut corners or set them up improperly).

For a system of the kind I was referring to above, you can get it for about $2,189.00 - that's with a 20.1" monitor and one 7950GX2. They don't have the E6600 Core 2 Duo in stock right now though. That should change in a few months. They only have the 6400 or the much higher priced 6700 or 6800 - which is not a happy place in the price/performance zone. You want the E6600, ok?

You are also better off buying a Logitech MX Duo at your local Best Buy when Alienware's default kit wears out. Alienware overprices Logitech components. Just take the default kit for now and replace it when it needs to be replaced.

www.alienware.com
 
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I think that your first decision should be whether it needs to be portable or not. If it does then just how portable. And next on the list is cost.

If you want to play in LAN parties or say you DM for a group but play at a friends house and want to use the computer then portability might be useful.

For a gaming rig the most important feature of your machine is graphics speed. CPU speed is important but not as important as GPU speed.

If picking a laptop, dont get one with a video chip that shares memory with the main memory. Most top end laptops come with NVidia or ATI chips with larger amounts of graphics ram than they used to.

For the graphics system ensure it has at least 64 Meg of RAM. Your better off getting 128 and if it is possible get 256 or even more. It makes a big difference especially if your gonna play Doom III or Far Cry type games. On the graphics processor it will have a total lit pixels per second rating. This is also a very important number of the moment second to memory. I think that toms hardware has the best comparison charts which they perform each quarter. You need to be picky about your graphics card.

I would probably buy a Dell if I had to get a pre built system as I believe their systems are well designed, use reasonable parts and are quiet, tho I have heard a lot about their poor after sales service - I havent used them as I build mine but I guess you wont hear a lot about all the good after sales service.

And... dont forget the cooling of it. Nowadays we burn so much power that the systems have a lot of fans or water cooling. You will probably only get water cooling on a custom built machine or a specialist like Alienware. Note how loud the machine is before you get a shock later !

Another thing to consider too is what sound card is in it. If you want the 7.1 Dolby stuff then it takes a lot of CPU to generate it. There are some better sound cards out now with fairly hefty sound processor chips on them to offload the CPU.

A dual core and its just great ! If there is a choice then opt for a multi core CPU every time ! Six months ago AMD wiped intel but its turning around again. Again, toms hardware has good CPU charts...

In terms of RAM thats pretty easy. 1Gb is probably not enough these days and Win XP (32 bit) cant handle 4Gb properly so you need 2Gb.

If your going down the Windows route then you have XP, XP x64, or Vista (soon). I love XP x64 tho its specialist and I would not recommend it for a straight games machine. Vista is a bit unknown as yet and I reckon XP is the only sensible choice.

http://tomshardware.co.uk/
esp...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics/charts.html
 
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Another vote for getting the Intel Core Due processor, whatever the machine. I have it in my Mac Book Pro, and it screams.
 


If you are concerned about price, I would suggest looking at ebay for your computer. I think I've bought my last 4 there. There are probably dozens of small companies which make and sell computers.

I would also suggest, get the best CPU you can afford, and skimp on the video card. Even though the video card pretty much is more important when it comes to games, it's much easier to upgrade a video card than a CPU.

If you are interested in a new console, I would wait until there has been more info released on the PS3. The price difference isn't that much between it and the 360 ($500 vs $400 for comparable models - there apparently won't be a price drop, but a lousy game bundled in later this year). But really, if you are looking to run NWN2, then you shouldn't be getting a console.
 

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