I want to occasionally discuss politics on ENWorld

[Kai Lord]

But what exactly does it say about him? Don't make us guess.

It might be fun to guess. Someone could start a poll....

 

[Darrin Drader]

It might be fun to guess. Someone could start a poll....

I promise not to take offense if someone does post one. Maybe Nutkinland would be the better place for that discussion though. Frankly I'm kind of surprised that this thread wasn't shut down in the middle of the first page. Maybe I'm being too hard on the mods here after all.

 

[LightPhoenix]

I promise not to take offense if someone does post one. Maybe Nutkinland would be the better place for that discussion though. Frankly I'm kind of surprised that this thread wasn't shut down in the middle of the first page. Maybe I'm being too hard on the mods here after all.

No, you're not.

Moderators have the unenviable job of being collosal jerks. In a culture (and yes, the internet is a culture of it's own) that deifies free speech and freedom in general, being the one that has to enforce rules carries with it the baggage of being hated by a majority of people. In fact, I imagine that the moderators get a LOT of flak from members of the community - I know your not the first. Unfortunately the general chaos of the web manifests itself very easily, and thus moderators in general need to take a hard stance against it. And that can make them come off as arrogant, self-centered, holier-than-thou, and generally jerky. Sometimes that's true, and sometimes it's only perceived, as is the case here.

I think it's a testament to the community that we have that there isn't more complaints than there appears to be. I do honestly think if any group of people could have civil political or religious discussions, it would be this group. Unfortunately, especially with topics as controversial as these, you need to take a hard stance and enforce it. Because even one exception opens the floodgates, and once you do that it's very hard to close them again. And that means that the moderators do have to be jerks about it.

 

[Tom Cashel]

It might be fun to guess. Someone could start a poll....

This goes against DA ROOLZ, but I'd like to register the fact that I am super-unsatisfied with Baraendur's "most annoying" poll being shut down before I could rake in a single vote.

I'm sure Kai "E-mail Pornographer" Lord would've done me a solid...

 

[Gez]

I, too, see NutkinLand as EN World's "little room in the back", though I sometimes compare it to the little rooms where they display the porn material in the backs of otherwise pedestrian bookstores. And you know the kinds of guys you can find hanging out in those little rooms!

Actually, no. The porn room is Nutwarz, which is yet a separate messageboards. If Nutkinland may be seen as the site spawned by EN World to hide all controversial stuff (like pantheon threads initially, and political or religious debates); Nutwarz is likewise for Nutkinland. There be porn, lots of it.

But Nutkinland is OK -- it's confined to one forum that isn't available to non-registered users, it's clearly identified by a PORN posticon and by a CODA27 thread started; so that you won't enter a porn thread by accident.

A general advice for Nutkinland: If someone tells you that you're <swearword> lame and that you should <swearword> <obscene act> and <die in a gross and violent way>; don't take it too seriously. Don't take it personally. It has become rare in BFD and absent from the rest of the forums, but you may come to see it.
In this case, keep in mind that those are mere bytes typed out of attitude statement. Don't be offended. If you are offended anyway, simply don't reply and let it -- let them, both the thread and the shock -- die out.

And don't be offended by something so mild as a typo in your name that wasn't even mean as an insult!

 

[EricNoah]

You know the old prayer asking for the "strength to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I can't, and the wisdom to know the difference"? I think that applies here.

Russ is in the enviable position to have these message boards be exactly the way he wants them to be. This includes the politics & religion prohibition, because he doesn't want to have to deal with the mess that he thinks such discussions cause (or the unnecessary stress or whatever).

If you happen to think such discussion is fun, entertaining, vital, important, whatever, you have some options. You can go to another forum where such discussion is allowed. You can start your own message boards and try to bring others over. You could, if it were that important to you, stop coming to EN World completely if you felt you must. But at some point you will probably just have to accept that it's not going to happen here.

By the way, that strength/serenity/widsom prayer is on a plaque on the wall in Eric's Grandma's bathroom.

 

[diaglo]

i always like the revised version:

Lord Grant Me

The Serenity To

Accept The Things

I Cannot Change,

The Strength To

Change The Things

I Can And The

Wisdom To Hide The

Bodies....

 

[the Jester]

i always like the revised version:

Lord Grant Me

The Serenity To

Accept The Things

I Cannot Change,

The Strength To

Change The Things

I Can And The

Wisdom To Hide The

Bodies....

Oho! So that's what those were in the hall closet!

 

[fett527]

I'm for no politics or religion here definitely. I understand ForceUser's position about discussing things like this with people you know and respect, but you may not like or respect those people anymore after you start discussing them.

 

[Darrin Drader]

I'm sure Kai "E-mail Pornographer" Lord would've done me a solid...

I'm pretty sure he did vote, for himself.