I was "booed" for even showing the 4e Core books

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The whole thing reminds me of Windows "Mojave". For those of you who don't know, look it up. Microsoft decided to rename Vista into Mojave. They then asked people what they thought of Vista and if they would ever buy it. "No! Never. I've heard horrible things about it. It's a bad system." They then try "Mojave" and say, "I love it! This is everything that I've ever wanted. Cool stuff." There's a good look of shock on their faces when they realize that it's actually Vista.
The same thing happens in my German classes. "Who likes Sauerkraut?" "Yuck!" "Have you ever tried it?" "No." "So how can you say that you don't like it?"
I mentioned 4th to the last group that I was in. It was a bad group. A few of the players just started badmouthing it and making statements that were inaccurate. The DM eventually decide to run a short campaign with the group to see how things would go for it. Mind you, he kept a lot of 3.5 in it. Thankfully, I had left that game and taken a couple of the players who were tired of just how ridiculous that group was. They were initially uncertain, but one of the guys, Sarge, looked at my new group at the end of the first game and said, "Thank you. That was the best game of D&D that I've played in years. The system was a lot of fun." We're definitely loving it. I'm 25. The other 2 guys that I stole from the other group are 39 and somewhere in the 40s. They've been playing all their lives. They love the edition and say that it's a lot like the original in feel.
Was there a schism? Yes. 3.5 came to represent crap to us because of the other group. 4th has come to represent fun.
Sarge has the DMG and Player's Guide. He doesn't want the MM because he knows that he'll want to run a campaign then. I find that to be very tempting.
 

Retreater said:
There were really strong emotions about it around where I live. The LGS both refused to carry it, so you'd have no choice other than ordering from Amazon. (Now one of them has shut its doors for good and the other sells only CCGs - again, I would prefer any RPGs.)
Anyone else find this hilarious? Just me? :)
Nope, not just you, wedgeski.

lol The CCG store is excuseable, but the other one? It's a Local Gaming Store that refuses to sell a popular game. Any guesses why it went out of business? :p

If nerdrage is at fault, we are perhaps discussing the world's most foolish businessperson.
 

The whole thing reminds me of Windows "Mojave". For those of you who don't know, look it up. Microsoft decided to rename Vista into Mojave. They then asked people what they thought of Vista and if they would ever buy it. "No! Never. I've heard horrible things about it. It's a bad system." They then try "Mojave" and say, "I love it! This is everything that I've ever wanted. Cool stuff." There's a good look of shock on their faces when they realize that it's actually Vista.
The same thing happens in my German classes. "Who likes Sauerkraut?" "Yuck!" "Have you ever tried it?" "No." "So how can you say that you don't like it?"
I mentioned 4th to the last group that I was in. It was a bad group. A few of the players just started badmouthing it and making statements that were inaccurate. The DM eventually decide to run a short campaign with the group to see how things would go for it. Mind you, he kept a lot of 3.5 in it. Thankfully, I had left that game and taken a couple of the players who were tired of just how ridiculous that group was. They were initially uncertain, but one of the guys, Sarge, looked at my new group at the end of the first game and said, "Thank you. That was the best game of D&D that I've played in years. The system was a lot of fun." We're definitely loving it. I'm 25. The other 2 guys that I stole from the other group are 39 and somewhere in the 40s. They've been playing all their lives. They love the edition and say that it's a lot like the original in feel.
Was there a schism? Yes. 3.5 came to represent crap to us because of the other group. 4th has come to represent fun.
Sarge has the DMG and Player's Guide. He doesn't want the MM because he knows that he'll want to run a campaign then. I find that to be very tempting.
Please fork and tell us about your ridiculous group! I like these kinds of stories! :D
 

The whole thing reminds me of Windows "Mojave". For those of you who don't know, look it up. Microsoft decided to rename Vista into Mojave. They then asked people what they thought of Vista and if they would ever buy it. "No! Never. I've heard horrible things about it. It's a bad system." They then try "Mojave" and say, "I love it! This is everything that I've ever wanted. Cool stuff." There's a good look of shock on their faces when they realize that it's actually Vista.

And then there are those of us who have tried Vista and don't like it. As a network admin I got Vista on my newest home computer so I could take it for a test drive before thinking about putting it on any work computers. While it is fine for home use and I can see how people might like it for that, what I found was that the networking and security (ease of use/setting up, not strength) suck compared to XP and that it is even larger bloatware than they let on. The Mojave experiment may be valid for home users, for the business world there is a reason 80% of companies have refused to switch. It is not the players who don't like it, it is the DMs.

The same thing happens in my German classes. "Who likes Sauerkraut?" "Yuck!" "Have you ever tried it?" "No." "So how can you say that you don't like it?"

"Who likes Sauerkraut?" "Yuck!" "Have you ever tried it?" "Yes."

As for 4e and my group. The DM brought in the 4e set he got and showed it to us. No one booed but the group was indifferent. Even the DM who bought it said that after reading it he thought it wasn't D&D. It has now been put away and our group continues on enjoying 3.x. For our next campaign we will be switching systems, but we are going superhero and using HERO System.
 


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