Ice Archon

[Wormwood]

I really do love you, Wormwood. You know that, don't you?

I'm naming my first Tiefling Warlord after you.

 

[mhensley]

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Wow, that is teh awesome.

 

[Greg K]

Yay!

Seriously, immunities were way overdone in 3rd edition.

And in both 1e and 2e as well.

 

[Minicol]

Wasn't 4e supposed to be free of symmetrical monsters ????

MWAHAHAHA !

 

[Stormtalon]

Meh, I dunno. This monster just, you know, leaves me cold.


*snicker*

 

[mrtomsmith]

They're not made of cold; they're made (magical) ice, presumably with other trace stuff that helps them be alive. If you get them cold enough, it's bad for the properties of the ice, and/or the magic, and/or the "other stuff".
Similarly, a Fire Archon is made (mostly) of fire, but if you get it hot enough, the fire will be "damaged" (become too energetic and disperse itself, burn or flow in a way incompatible with "life", or just merge with or be replaced by the non-"living" fire attack that's surrounding it).

Next thing you know, they'll have creatures made of matter who can be harmed by matter.

(I know, I know, this whole discussion is just feeding the trolls. But it's always bugged me when energy beings or whatever beings are entirely immune to their own substance. A living thing is inherently a delicate balance of many things, and upsetting that balance is going to mess it up.)

 

[ruleslawyer]

There's also a nice narrative about more powerful elemental/energy creatures being able to "out-burn" or "out-freeze" their lesser counterparts. I like the idea that a great wyrm red dragon's fire is strong enough to burn its wyrmling counterpart, or that Asmodeus's Flames of Nessus can reduce even the fiery balor to ash. These effects *are* magical rather than simply physical, after all.

(Although I guess you'll have to hand out lava immunity to fire-type creatures if you're using the Corrected Lava Rules .)

 

[Pinotage]

But: A Ice Archon certainly is not at 0 K. It can still move, and that always requires a temperature different from 0 K.

Not really. It could hop around is some quantum kind of way even at 0 K! It moves when you're not looking!

Pinotage

 

[allenw]

Next thing you know, they'll have creatures made of matter who can be harmed by matter.

As long as they still take 1.5x damage from antimatter.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

The rpg and DDM stats are surprisingly different. .

It looks like the RPG one is 18th level and the DDM one is 14th level. They probably had a reason to tone it down a bit in the minis.

Fitz