D&D 5E If you use thunderstep but teleport less than 10 feet do you take damage?

[Maxperson]

First, no, the disappearance is not the beginning of a spell being cast. Do we agree on this ?

Yes. It's the beginning of the spell effect, which is according to you interruptible even though it's an instantaneous effect. Dispel magic should be able to affect it with the exact same timing. There's no reason, if your interpretation of Ready and Triggers are correct, for Dispel not to work as a reaction.

Try and explain to me how you can interrupt a teleport in mid effect to walk quickly 30 feet, taking far longer than a readied Dispel Magic(since all you do is release the magic), but the spell is too quick for a Dispel Magic to take effect because teleport is instantaneous.

 

[Maxperson]

That’s… not how the Ready action works.

Sure it is. On my turn I ready an action to kick the wizard in the nads if he tries to move away from me. If the trigger happens, I kick him in the nads. If I take any other reactions, I can no longer take my readied action. However, I don't take another reaction and the wizard never moves, the readied action goes away as soon as it's my turn again. At that point I either ready another action or do something else.

Now, his allowing a readied action outside of combat is the only unusual thing. It's like giving the wizard a free surprise round to ready an action.

 

[Swarmkeeper]

Sure it is. On my turn I ready an action to kick the wizard in the nads if he tries to move away from me. If the trigger happens, I kick him in the nads. If I take any other reactions, I can no longer take my readied action. However, I don't take another reaction and the wizard never moves, the readied action goes away as soon as it's my turn again. At that point I either ready another action or do something else.

Now, his allowing a readied action outside of combat is the only unusual thing. It's like giving the wizard a free surprise round to ready an action.

You missed the context. The “Ready” in Lyxen’s example was before initiative. He then allows a new action in the first round after initiative if the trigger did not occur. Two for one. But very circumstantial reportedly.

 

[Maxperson]

You missed the context. The “Ready” in Lyxen’s example was before initiative. He then allows a new action in the first round after initiative if the trigger did not occur. Two for one. But very circumstantial reportedly.

I didn't miss it. I explicitly acknowledged it in my last sentence

It's essentially a surprise round for the wizard, but can only be used to ready an action. Then the action in the first round.

 

[Swarmkeeper]

I didn't miss it. I explicitly acknowledged it in my last sentence

It's essentially a surprise round for the wizard, but can only be used to ready an action. Then the action in the first round.

There is no surprise, though - do you advocate giving the benefit of surprise with no surprise?

Not to mention, there is no surprise round in 5e.

NRN

 

[Maxperson]

There is no surprise, though - do you advocate giving the benefit of surprise with no surprise?

That's why I used words like "like" and "essentially."

It's not surprise, but is like surprise.

Not to mention, there is no surprise round in 5e.

You know what I meant.

 

[James Gasik]

Of course, knowing what spell someone has readied if you didn't see them start the cast might be beyond the ability for someone to perceive. And even then, they need to identify the spell, so we're in kind of a grey area here.

Actually, how here's a question. Can I use Dispel Magic on a spell someone else has readied?

 

[Swarmkeeper]

Of course, knowing what spell someone has readied if you didn't see them start the cast might be beyond the ability for someone to perceive. And even then, they need to identify the spell, so we're in kind of a grey area here.

Actually, how here's a question. Can I use Dispel Magic on a spell someone else has readied?

I was going to say yes because it dispels a spell that has been cast, which is indeed the case with a Readied spell:

When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs.

However, Dispel Magic doesn't target the caster, it targets the target of the caster. It targets the end result of the spell.

Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends

So, technically there is nothing yet to use Dispel Magic on (well, maybe it dispels Mage Armor and/or some other such self-buffs, but not the spell currently being cast).

My ruling would be no, Dispel Magic will not interrupt a Readied spell but Counterspell could.

 

[James Gasik]

That's very interesting, so I guess that settles the "ready Dispel Magic" question. Thank you, Swarmkeeper.

 

[Maxperson]

I was going to say yes because it dispels a spell that has been cast, which is indeed the case with a Readied spell:

When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs.

However, Dispel Magic doesn't target the caster, it targets the target of the caster. It targets the end result of the spell.

Any spell of 3rd level or lower on the target ends

So, technically there is nothing yet to use Dispel Magic on (well, maybe it dispels Mage Armor and/or some other such self-buffs, but not the spell currently being cast).

My ruling would be no, Dispel Magic will not interrupt a Readied spell but Counterspell could.

Counterspell would only work as the spell is being readied, though. It wouldn't work after or during the trigger since it interrupts the casting which is already done. Releasing the energy isn't casting the spell.