Immediate and Free Actions - how many?

Istar

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Whats the story with these types of actions, I know they have cut back in recent updates, how does it work now.

I know you can only do one Immediate action, and that is against a full turn of enemy attacks ?

And now free actions, are independant of that, how many of them can you do ?
 

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You are allowed one Immediate action per round.

You are allowed any number of free actions per round, within reason. You can make only one free action attack per turn, though.
 

You are allowed one Immediate action per round.

You are allowed any number of free actions per round, within reason. You can make only one free action attack per turn, though.

What does "within reason" mean technically, 2 or 3 ?

Per turn, thats per everyone's turn, so if an attack on you creates a free action and 4 or 5 attacks on you spawn free actions you could have 4 or 5 free actions before your turn comes about ?
 

"Within reason" means just that: you're just limited by what your DM will allow you to do.

Free actions take almost no time or effort. You can take as many free actions as you want during your or another combatant’s turn. There is an exception to that rule: A creature can take a free action to use an attack power only once per turn.

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In certain circumstances, the DM might decide to limit the use of free actions further. For instance, if an adventurer has already used free actions during a particular turn to talk, drop things, and use a class feature, the DM might rule that the adventurer can use no more free actions during that turn.
 

What does "within reason" mean technically, 2 or 3 ?

Per turn, thats per everyone's turn, so if an attack on you creates a free action and 4 or 5 attacks on you spawn free actions you could have 4 or 5 free actions before your turn comes about ?
What ever the DM thinks is reasonable.
 


It's all dependent upon the situation and the actual free action.

A 10 minute speach sure doesn't fit in a round.
a couple of pithy one liners would.
 

What does "within reason" mean technically, 2 or 3 ?

Per turn, thats per everyone's turn, so if an attack on you creates a free action and 4 or 5 attacks on you spawn free actions you could have 4 or 5 free actions before your turn comes about ?

Immediate actions are once per round (note the difference between "round" and "turn") and cannot be performed on your turn.

Your DM will decide how many free actions based on the specific actions and the context you are performing them in. You may only perform one free action that results in an attack though.
 

You may only perform one free action that results in an attack though.
You may only use one Free Action Attack Power per turn. There are Free Action powers that result in No Action attacks, there are straight up No Action attacks, and any attack that is a Free Action but is not a power is also fine. All of those exist in 4e so the distinction is incredibly important, particularly if your leader is an enabler.
 

What do people think is "Reasonable"?
First off you are going to get no single answer to that, I am not even sure as to the limits I would place on it myself. It really would depend on what you were trying to accomplish.

For example, you are grappled by an orc and he is much stronger, so free actions: Utter a quip, frantically search around for something,terrain feature or weapon that would help you break the grab, and drop an article of clothing to mark you presence to companions that will come looking for you.
Can't really come up with something better off the top of my head.
 

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