Implement/Shaman questions

[Eric Finley]

For reference, I note that in the multiclassing/implements discussion no one has yet referenced the definitive answer - it's located, inconviently, in the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide FAQ. Link is here, question #2.

 

[Spatula]

Flavourwise, A Bard/Druid is very viable. Yet mechanically they are at a disadvantage with regard to implements. The bard is going to have this problem every time he multiclasses into anything except Wizard (as they use Wands).

Wizards, warlocks, and artificers, actually. Artificers (and bards) also have a bunch of weapon attacks where you don't need to worry about implements, which makes them more attractive for multiclassing. And of course you can always take AIP to combine all of your arcane spells under one item (make it a blade and gain extra flexibility in being able to use weapon attacks with your primary weapon).

There is certainly an issue when it comes to multiclassing with non-arcane casters, though.

Also the Half-Elf Dilettante power is inferior chosing any implement power from a class that the player doesn't intend to multiclass into.

This is really annoying in the character builder; even if you can use the implement in question (say, half-elf feylock takes a bard implement at-will with dilettante), it won't work with the racial power unless you have the multiclass feat.

 

[Eric Finley]

@Spatula: That's the point of this discussion. The CB is precisely correct there; that's the way the rules work. (Whether or not you would prefer them to is certainly a different matter.)

If you do house rule it, by the way, there's an easy way to do so (for arcane types only) in the CB: Click the yellow house icon in the bottom Feats panel to generate a User Choice feat, and then enter Arcane Implement Proficiency by selecting it or (if you don't have the Dex for it) entering Create Custom and just writing in the name of the feat - this is faster than listing all illegal options and hunting it down in my experience. Then give yourself AIP with the proper implement. This'll extend it to all your arcane powers, even ones gained through Dilettante.