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[jaerdaph]

Personally, I'd avoid naming them after something edition specific since they will probably be out of date in the next 18 months when 5e comes out. But ultimately, it's really trivial what the tiers are called.

As for my continued subscription, I'll just wait to see what the finalized plans are before I decide. I don't think EN World will ever be worth $6 a month to me, and depending what I get (or no longer continue to get) for $3 a month, it might not be worth that either.

I'll just have to wait and see...

 

[Jeff Wilder]

Oh, my God. Really, people? [Then six paragraphs of rant.]

Wow.

 

[Lord Xtheth]

When I first came here, I decided to pay because I like the site. I payed for my year and was happy.
When the new formatted $3 subscription came out, I think I was in the first 10 people who subscribed, because again I realy like the site, it's people and generally everything about it!
When there was "Extra stuff" offered, I subscribed again, and started paying twice, because I thought to myself "That was nice of them, I should support these people"

Now I see a message that reads somthing along the lines of "pay us money 'or else' " and that doesn't sit quite as happily in my gullet.

Taking privilages that were once free away from people who don't pay isn't realy a good way to make money (At least I think it isn't). I realize offering more stuff to people who pay more money might be a little difficult for you, but it should be somthing you think about before you think about charging more money, and WAY before you tell people you're thinking about charging more money.

IMHO taking things away from people is a bad plan, and should definately be re-considered.
Honestly though, whatever plan you chose to do, I hope it works well, and the site remains active and prosperous! Who knows, one day I might be up for an Ennie, or maybe writing articles for you, but hopefully it doesn't cost my fellow poor people too much to notice these things.

 

[pawsplay]

Oh, my God. Really, people?

Of all the things in this world, or on the internet, or on this messageboard, that you could possibly worry about, you're going to get offended if Morrus names the subscription tiers after the tiers of 4E?

No. Giving the OGL the bird, redesigning the D&D game line in a direction I consider a dead end, claiming monotremes have breasts, and turning gnomes into serial killers played by Elijah Wood offended me. Naming the tiers after 4e would just remind me that a) I was offended, and b) a lot of people don't care that I was offended and still take a great deal of pleasure in rubbing it in my face they don't care I was offended. I don't hold any ill will against Morrus if he goes that route, but it's this kind of post that puts a sour taste in my mouth about such things. Very poor form, dude.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Oh, please. I'm not talking about any of that. It's done; play the game you want to play. I'm glad you've got Pathfinder and other 3E compatible stuff available. Seriously.

But this isn't about any of that, no matter how much you might want to make it about that. It's about a cute little naming scheme idea that people were claiming to be offended by. That's what I find nonsensical.

It's going to remind you of things that offended you? Like so much else on this site--every 4E tag, every 4E mention, every product, every piece of art--doesn't do that already?

I wasn't belittling any offense you might have taken in the past (though you're making it awfully tempting). I wasn't talking at all about any offense you might've felt in the past; you brought that into this, not me. I was talking specifically about people who were actually claiming to be offended by the naming scheme. And if someone's actually going to take offense at the naming scheme of a subscription service like this? Yeah, then I am going to belittle their feelings of offense, and I'm not going to feel ashamed about doing so.

(It's sad that I even have to say this, but... All opinions expressed are my own, spoken as a member of the forums, and should not be taken, formally or informally, as coming from any other source.)

 

[Mouseferatu]

Morrus, my apologies. I didn't intend to hijack your thread, or interrupt whatever stream of useful feedback you were getting. This probably wasn't the place for this.

 

[Orius]

Oh, my God. Really, people?

Of all the things in this world, or on the internet, or on this messageboard, that you could possibly worry about, you're going to get offended if Morrus names the subscription tiers after the tiers of 4E?

Really?

I'm sorry, but using those names does not in any way imply that ENWorld if a 4E site. It implies exactly one thing: That the owner thought it was cute to use the names of the current edition of the game.

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It's going to remind you of things that offended you? Like so much else on this site--every 4E tag, every 4E mention, every product, every piece of art--doesn't do that already?

I have to agree with Ari. The front page of the site displays news which often which reflects stuff going on with 4e, we have two 4e fora, even topics in General touch on or fully discuss 4e, the XP tags even have a 4e flavors, and people are worried that 4e based subscription levels are going to shove 4e in their faces? I ... I just don't get it.

So what if EN World reflects 4e? EN World has always reflected the most current edition of the rules. But even so, it has never ever been exclusive to any one set of the rules. All editions are on topic here, and the moderators enforce the edition war ban pretty strongly. Whatever Morrus names the subscription levels is not going to change that.

 

[Lanefan]

How about Commoner level (no sub), Dungeon level (basic sub), and Dragon level (full-ride sub)?

Then at least we could quite literally say the site was supported by Dungeons and Dragons.

Lanefan

 

[Mouseferatu]

How about Commoner level (no sub), Dungeon level (basic sub), and Dragon level (full-ride sub)?

Then at least we could quite literally say the site was supported by Dungeons and Dragons.

Or we could go with Bystander, Player, and Dungeon Master.

 

[Jack99]

Oh, my God. Really, people?

Of all the things in this world, or on the internet, or on this messageboard, that you could possibly worry about, you're going to get offended if Morrus names the subscription tiers after the tiers of 4E?

Really?

I'm sorry, but using those names does not in any way imply that ENWorld if a 4E site. It implies exactly one thing: That the owner thought it was cute to use the names of the current edition of the game.

You don't like 4E? Fine. You don't like D&D at all? Fine; there's still a place for you on this site.

But you're going to be offended by it? Honestly and truly offended?

I've spent years building a rep for being polite and diplomatic, here and on the other forums I frequent, and I intend, for the most part, to stick with that. But I have to say that, honestly, even for the home of hyperbole that is the Internet, that's some of the most ridiculous, nonsensical, self-entitled claptrap I've ever heard, and I can only hope that those of you making such a claim are playing an April Fool's joke on us.

Quoted because it's true.

As for the tiers, name them after dragon age categories or something, that way you might avoid offending anyone. However, in order to achieve that, make sure you use categories that existed prior to 2008.