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Ugh, why are the pages stretched out so wide? Is it from that new bar that's at the top of the page? At least a third of the right side of the page is off the edge of my screen here, and it just feels too wide. With the sidebar on the left, I have to scroll the page over a bit just to read the posts, and I have to do it every time I go to a new page. It doesn't help that the computer I'm working with here doesn't have a higher resolution than 1024x600 either (which is kind of stupid, given that screens have been getting wider for a while0.
 

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Power clarifies, and absolute power clarifies absolutely.

I like it better switched up a bit.

Clarity is power, and absolute clarity is absolute power.*
;)

Its a perfect catchphrase for some kind of psionic character.

* It also works with Absolut.
 

IMHO...

Improving profile functionality is an inelegant solution to the loss of sigs. I have to say I agree with Nifft here (stop the presses!). HOWEVER, I will wait and see before casting final judgment. Morrus, I am glad that you are at least thinking about those of us who really miss sigs.

On the other hand...

You must realize you are going to have to bear the weight of someone who is trying to be responsible for an entire paradigm shift in the way forums are used at large, not just here on EN World, for this to become worthwhile. People on forums just don't consult profiles on a regular basis. You are going to have to give one helluva effort to make profiles worth visiting for most people to make them replace sigs. At which point I have to ask, "Why bother?"

Sigs work. For the vast majority of people who use them, they are used to link to the poster's other projects. I appreciate being able to do so at a glance rather than having to click someone's profile to see them. And if the only change this is going to result in is someone putting "See my Profile for X, Y, and Z," in his/her sig rather than allowing links in the sig, all it seems to be doing is adding an additional hurdle for the user to get at information. I don't see this as an advantage.

But like I said...

I will wait and see what you do with profiles. Maybe I'm wrong and profiles will be all the rage after you improve them.
 

Morrus - a request, since this seems to be a thread that has your attention and my query relates to changes to the site layout and promotion of subscription benefits and subscriber content etc.

Now that the layout has a bar at the top of each page listing 'older news', 'newsletter', and 'subscriber content' etc on coloured buttons can we lose the three stickied threads at the top of this forum about subscriber content (one of which was last posted to in December 09) as they are (IMHO) superfluos given the new 'advert' buttons and also very annoying as they push all the useful/live threads and content off the bottom of the screen.
 

Nifft, I apologise. I find this thread very hard work (along with most of the threads in Meta), and I took it out on you. I did not mean anything personal.
Apology accepted.

Something I learned -- the hard way, like you're doing right now -- in the House Rules forum is that people who tell you things you don't necessarily want to hear are doing you a service. They are going out of their way to help you, and paying attention to your (often imperfect) ideas for free.

I'm sure following this you'll get lots of warm, fuzzy, supportive posts -- it's what we do when we see people who are feeling down, the forum equivalent of "Get Well Soon!" cards. These posts will feel better than criticism, just like those "Get Well Soon!" cards usually make you feel better than medicine.

- - -

Anyway, what to do about the vertical expanse. IMHO you should:

- Remove the custom user title. It was toy chrome before the tweetbar, and it's redundant chrome now.

- Remove the extra spacing between the user title and the tweetbar.

- Possibly remove the mandatory username prefix from the tweetbar. Since it's the only thing following the big username, it ought to be unambiguous, but we'll see how people use it.

- If you do remove the mandatory username from the tweetbar, possibly seed the message prompt with the string "... is ", so the user's tweetbar would by default look like:

Nifft
... is an ugly duckling.

But if people deleted the seed string, they could use the tweetbar just like a custom title, or put something else in entirely:

Nifft
... has cold feet.

You'd keep the functionality without wasting space, or duplicating toys.

Cheers, -- N
 

Something I learned -- the hard way, like you're doing right now -- in the House Rules forum is that people who tell you things you don't necessarily want to hear are doing you a service. They are going out of their way to help you, and paying attention to your (often imperfect) ideas for free.

I don't think that Morrus is frustrated with folks stating what they like or dislike about his various changes, or with the many suggestions that he may personally care for or not . . . . but rather with the often angry and even demanding tone that more than a few are using (which I don't think you are one of, Nifft, you just happened to post some negative stuff when Morrus reached a threshold).

Posters who say, "Hey, don't take that away! I like that!" are fine. Posters who get angry and promise to take their toys and go home if they don't get their way . . . . I'm not surprised that Morrus lost it for a moment there. I would have long before that!

To be cliche, it's not WHAT you say but rather HOW you say it that is important.
 

Ugh, why are the pages stretched out so wide? Is it from that new bar that's at the top of the page? At least a third of the right side of the page is off the edge of my screen here, and it just feels too wide. With the sidebar on the left, I have to scroll the page over a bit just to read the posts, and I have to do it every time I go to a new page. It doesn't help that the computer I'm working with here doesn't have a higher resolution than 1024x600 either (which is kind of stupid, given that screens have been getting wider for a while0.

I second this one, I know I'm in the minority with my monitor at 800x600 but I need it that way for visibility issues.
 

I second this one, I know I'm in the minority with my monitor at 800x600 but I need it that way for visibility issues.
If you guys use AdBlock (a Firefox extension), you could remove one or two of the buttons.

Attached is a sample with two of the buttons removed. Even without the buttons, though, menu bar that starts with "My Account" is more than 800 px wide.

Cheers, -- N
 

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darjr is going to make an attempt at creating weem's example layout in a test environment. No promises, though!
 

If you guys use AdBlock (a Firefox extension), you could remove one or two of the buttons.

Attached is a sample with two of the buttons removed. Even without the buttons, though, menu bar that starts with "My Account" is more than 800 px wide.

Cheers, -- N
For what it's worth, I'm using 1024x768 resolution on a laptop, and I don't see 100% of the menu bar starting with "My Account" without scrolling -- the "Log Out" link doesn't show the terminal "t" on this screen, probably because of the quarter-inch (6 mm) of lateral padding between boxes.
And the buttons: I see War of the Burning Sky and Space Fight!, but have to scroll to the right to see the Search and Send a Scoop buttons, let alone see the ad that appears beyond them to the right. (I don't have any of the side-columns disabled, so the "Gamers Online Now:" box displaces the row of buttons to the right, widening the entire page.)
 

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