Improved 2 Weapon Defense question

[Dannyalcatraz]

Improved 2 Weapon Defense gives you +2 AC when fighting with 2 weapons.

I currently prefer using spiked shields as my off-hand weapon (esp with Imp. Shield Bash & Bashing enchantment).

Would you allow a character fighting with 2 Weapon style with a weapon and a bashing shield to gain the benefit of the Improved Weapon Defense Feat?

The munchkin in me says "Yes! Yes! 1000xYes!"

The DM in me says "Hmmmmmmmm....."

 

[Jdvn1]

I thought that feat gave you a +2 shield bonus to AC.

That means no.

 

[Crothian]

it depends on who it is worded, if it is a shield bonus then it won't stack, but if it is like a dodge bonus it would be okay.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Its a shield bonus, so one would think that it wouldn't.

However, Datsana's (armored sleeves) +1AC works with light armors and shields, and you would think THEY provide either armor or shield bonuses, so there are exceptions, apparently.

 

[Jdvn1]

If the armored sleeves give a shield bonus, they don't stack either unless they specifically say otherwise.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Datsana specifically state that they stack with shields and light armor.

The curious thing is that the AC bonus type is never listed in the item desciption- though it isn't for shields either. Datsana are, however, grouped with shields on the charts in which they are listed.

 

[ThirdWizard]

I believe they are origionally from OA where shields didn't exist. That's what I remember anyway from the boards, I don't own any of the books. It's worth considering that fact when deciding whether or not to allow them into a game.

 

[Crothian]

I believe they are origionally from OA where shields didn't exist. That's what I remember anyway from the boards, I don't own any of the books. It's worth considering that fact when deciding whether or not to allow them into a game.

Ya, they are not meant to be used in a game outside the specific setting they are introduced in.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

OA does have buckler-equivalent, the Tessen

Datsana are also in the Arms & Equipment Guide, a more general book than OA.