Improved Trip feat as an AOO or Defensive Throw

[Rashak Mani]

When you trip someone as an AOO or due to the Defensive Throw feat do you gain the extra melee attack if you trip sucessfully ? Or is the Improved Trip only possible when its your turn and your attack ?

(Feat Explanation: Defensive Throw allows for a free trip if the guy being dodged misses his attack)

I think the Improved Trip should be only during your attack... otherwise with Combat Reflexes you could be tripping and hitting several people going by. The AOO becomes way more deadly too...

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I'm fairly certain you can improved trip on an AoO.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

You may use Improved Trip on an AoO. You may not use it on a Defensive Throw.

The key phrase from Improved Trip is "as if you hadn’t used your attack for the trip attempt."

On an AoO, you could have taken a normal melee attack, and so may make a normal melee attack "as if you hadn’t used your attack for the trip attempt."

On a Defensive Throw, you could not have taken a normal melee attack, and so may not make a normal melee attack "as if you hadn’t used your attack for the trip attempt."

 

[lordcloaker]

Defensive Throw has a fairly high pre-req in feats to get it, including Combat Reflexes and Improved Trip. Seems kind of stupid to have so many feats just to trip the guy and nothing more. I understand that with Defensive Throw you use your Improved Trip:
Dodge on bad guy, bad guy misses, trip him, beat him (uses up 1 AoO).

 

[LokiDR]

What book is Defensive Throw out of?

 

[shilsen]

What book is Defensive Throw out of?

Complete Warrior, pg. 97

 

[lordcloaker]

What book is Defensive Throw out of?

Complete Warrior I believe