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D&D 4E In 4E Asmodeus will be a god!

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Falstaff said:
Demons aren't real, even in the real world. Or are you just kidding?

Many people believe demons to exist.

Many people also believe Thor, Odin, and Loki exist too.

We live in a multicultural world with varied beliefs and religious structures.

I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me demonic and devilish gods in D&D, or give me nerf!
 

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Flobby said:
The word god (small-g) in English is used as a catch all for beings or whatever that have some control over our lives and nature-- but in actuality what "god" is varies greatly from religion to religion (and even that word is dubious in the real world). Until fairly recently in Christianity, as a whole that is, EVERY other "religion" was demonic. The "Mammon" of the bible was a "god" to another neighboring people to the Jews (and I believe some other "demons" of the Bible have similar origins).

In D&D a "god" is something different again from any real world religion-- its a fanatsy world, so they are free to use any definition they want-- the word "demon" or "devil" is also. And I don't believe that Christianity has every differenciated the terms. The words "demon" "arch-devil" or even"god" in this fantasy world are arbitrary will little to do with their real world counterparts.

What I want to say is the terms "demon" and "god" (not big-G God!) have been interchangeble in the past. And if "god" (in D&D or in the real-world for that matter) as some being that has worshipers and has control over us/nature, then I see no problem with bringing any demon to god status. (I don't really see the difference between an "evil god" and a "demon" anyway...). And in this sense I wouldn't have a problem if you refered to Satan as a (small-g!) god.

(As a Christian) I WOULD of course see a problem if WoC or anyone tried to stat God or Christ, or said said demon. And I think I would even if I wasn't Christian. I actually have heard of a d20 Amida-- which I think is going a little far-- and I'm not Buddhist. These are real-world religions. As far as I know nobody worships demons or devils seriously -- even the Church of Satan doesn't actually believe there are real devils.
Even if someone published a game world which included a being named "God", which was or was not identical to the Judeo-Christian god, I hardly see any need to take offense at a work of fiction. After all, authors mention God in their works all the time, and many use him as a character.
 

TerraDave said:
Exactly, he was a god afteral.

They have mentioned using real world sources for gods (at least Thor). Will they create some kind of all-star pantheon with Thor, Zeus, etc all mixed together? This could be...silly...
Maybe something like they do in Order of the Stick, with regional cultural gods that don't share worshippers.
 

I feel rather uncomfortable about the idea of Asmodeus as deity as well, so much so that when 4e comes out, I think I will ignore him and come up with my own pantheon. Asmo was always such a moustache-twirling wimp anyway...
 

Xyxox said:
Many people believe demons to exist.

Many people also believe Thor, Odin, and Loki exist too.

We live in a multicultural world with varied beliefs and religious structures.

Wow. Just.....wow.
 


Well, good. It's about time.

Mephistopheles gets to be king for a day. Well, I assume that'll be the case. I imagine he's been right peeved with all that waiting. :D

It's not like they haven't been "hinting" at this happening, if ever so delicately. ;)
 




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