Infernal pacts - appropriate for player characters?

[Imaro]

Hardly news anymore.

Cheers, -- N

Uh...just...huh? What does this have to do with my question?

 

[Nifft]

I'm not confusing anything. Becoming a Warlock (taking first level as a Warlock) is the equivalent in-game as making a pact with a fiend. Taking further levels as a Warlock means keeping oneself true with that pact and doing things in favor of that fiend ('sending marked souls to their afterlife reward to get boons of souls from their master').

The I-accidentally-made-a-pact-with-the-Devil-but-now-I-repent cliché is better handled with a feat (a one-time thing) than with a class (a whole commitment to a profession/cause).

You are giving more meaning to game mechanics than they demand. You are also telling a lot of people that their character concepts are invalid. Some of them post here, too.

Why can't a Sorcerer be played as someone who resents his dragon-tainted blood? After all, if he didn't want it, he'd just not take levels -- right?

Cheers, -- N

 

[Nifft]

Uh...just...huh? What does this have to do with my question?

Let's just focus on the last one, then, because the link is still in my copy buffer:

The Little Mermaid

This is a film about a pact with a dark power. Note the target audience. Note the studio. Note the lack of uproar.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Betote]

You are giving more meaning to game mechanics than they demand. You are also telling a lot of people that their character concepts are invalid. Some of them post here, too.

Why can't a Sorcerer be played as someone who resents his dragon-tainted blood? After all, if he didn't want it, he'd just not take levels -- right?

Cheers, -- N

But the Sorcerer description doesn't say explicitly that he gets powers by doing something that their dragon blood desires. The Warlock description, on the other hand, estates that he gains new powers as a reward from his fiendish master for sending marked opponents to their afterlife reward.

 

[Nifft]

But the Sorcerer description doesn't say explicitly that he gets powers by doing something that their dragon blood desires. The Warlock description, on the other hand, estates that he gains new powers as a reward from his fiendish master for sending marked opponents to their afterlife reward.

Sounds like something for the ones who did enter their class voluntarily.

Could you post the rest of the Invocation choices for that level? I don't have the book in front of me.

Thanks, -- N

 

[Gloombunny]

But the Sorcerer description doesn't say explicitly that he gets powers by doing something that their dragon blood desires. The Warlock description, on the other hand, estates that he gains new powers as a reward from his fiendish master for sending marked opponents to their afterlife reward.

Are you saying that the only way for a character to gain levels in warlock is to send marked souls? I don't think that's what WotC meant with the boon of souls thing.

 

[Betote]

Sounds like something for the ones who did enter their class voluntarily.

Could you post the rest of the Invocation choices for that level? I don't have the book in front of me.

Thanks, -- N

No one of us have it yet, but the preview is very specific on that matter.

 

[Nifft]

No one of us have it yet, but the preview is very specific on that matter.

The preview also said there are three kinds of Warlock -- two of whom do not have Infernal masters. So that power you're talking about is available to at most one third of the Warlock family. Is it mandatory for all Infernal pact Warlocks? You don't know this, and neither do I. So it's a bit odd to argue that this specific power means anything at all for every Warlock build.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Imaro]

Stupid double post

 

[Imaro]

Let's just focus on the last one, then, because the link is still in my copy buffer:

The Little Mermaid

This is a film about a pact with a dark power. Note the target audience. Note the studio. Note the lack of uproar.

Cheers, -- N

Are you kidding me...the mermaid traded her voice for the ability to have legs. I'm sorry but this is nothing like sending enemies to hell or actually being in servitude to a dark power that places demands upon you in return for growing power.

It's funny since there was a recent uproar about some of the Harry Potter books.