Influence of Conan on D&D

I don't think the racism is that bad. The characters themselves are quite racist and there are some pretty broad stereotypes, but there are good and bad folk of many races and colors, as I recall.

Early in his career, Howard did write stories that were openly racist. By the time he was writing Conan, however, his views on the subject had evolved. If you stick to his Conan stories you'll not only find little or no racism, but, as pawsplay says, you'll discover all races possessed equally of grandeur and baseness.

As for shameful- I agree with you in all cases but one. The Vale of Lost Women is about as starkly racist, misogynist and homophobic as Howard gets, and in that case, he gets pretty damn far.

It's been a long time since I read that particular story, and I'm not sure I've ever read it in a non-expurgated edition. But my memory of this particular story is that it's told from the POV of a female character who views the world through the assumption that all men are misogynistic and dark-skinned people are beasts. This POV, however, is explicitly criticized through the words and deeds of Conan (who treats the black-skinned men as equals and wasn't actually going to do all the misogynistic things she assumed he was going to do). In fact, the entire point of the story seemed to be about how wrong-headed her POV. In many ways, I felt that it could be read as a direct critique of similar wrong-headed ideologies being portrayed in pulp fiction.

But, as I say, I haven't read the story in years.

With all that being said, Howard was certainly a product of his time. His understanding of history, for example, is heavily tinged with concepts like "racial migrations" and the like. This lends Hyperborea a certain epic scope, but the language has unfortunate associations to the modern ear.

Of course, if you're the type of person who becomes offended when an historical work refers to "negros" instead of "African Americans", then you'll find plenty to offend you in Howard's work.
 

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Like AD&D magic users. That's why they have summon spells -- when you are 18th level but still only have 30 hit points, you better put a seriously monstrous meat shield between you and the very angry high level fighter.


Indeed. Or turn yourself or someone else into something monstrous that can kill quickly and brutally, like an ape or giant snake.
 


Howard used such evocative language throughout all of his stories.

But my favorite passage comes from Rogues in the House. Conan is imprisoned but given a huge beefbone to eat. The jailor, making the rounds, notices this and is outraged:

"The jailer was so upset that he made the mistake of entering the cell alone, without calling the guards from other parts of the prison. It was the first mistake in the line of duty, and his last. Conan brained him the beefbone, took his poniard and his keys, and made a leisurely departure."

(emphasis added)

And then just paragraphs later he takes his revenge on the girl who had him imprisoned by killing her lover and throwing her into a cesspool.


Another good quote comes from the Tower of the Elephant:

"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."


And there's just so much more.
 

Very nice. :cool: Did you complain to those sexist pigs* at Mongoose about them statting her, who saves Conan's life, as a 1st level Noble?

*Seriously, I see more sexism and less understanding of female psychology these days from the typical computer game publisher, or several RPG publishers, than from any 1930's pulp fantasy author I can think of, REH certainly included.

I never got a copy of the book. One of the few books I've been published in that I don't have a copy... dang it.
 




Volume 4 Issue 10 if you have it :)

Stats for Conan at a range of ages . . . not sure about the latent psionic powers though :confused:

it's in Dragon #36 in the Dragon Archive.

animal empathy is one i would have to disagree with, but detect magic, precognition, and mind bar i could see him having to account for his ability to sense the unnatural, his danger sense, and his ability to resist mind control all to some degree. In todays systems you would probably use other mechanics to represent those.
 

His happenstance use of the magical belt in "People of the Black Circle" does suggest the possibility of detect magic, although I think it is sometimes implied in REH that anyone might detect magic if they have the sharpness of instinct.
 

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