Info from the Israeli translator?

[Scholar & Brutalman]

I don't remember any official 4E references to the bard. Everything I remember seeing was speculation from non-WotC sources

There's been a fair bit of official comment on the bard. Races and Classes has a few paragraphs on P. 82, and there's this Design and Development article. Both make it clear that the 4e bard is going to be a leader; neither specify the power source though it's said to use magic, so obviously it's not martial.

 

[Nikosandros]

There's been a fair bit of official comment on the bard. Races and Classes has a few paragraphs on P. 82, and there's this Design and Development article. Both make it clear that the 4e bard is going to be a leader; neither specify the power source though it's said to use magic, so obviously it's not martial.

I think that the the paragraph in R&C is pretty explicit about the bard not being an arcane class. It states that:

[...]a bard draws magic from otherworldly patrons [...] This is fundamentally different from the relationship other spellcasters have with their power sources. A bard is not subservient worshiper like a cleric, nor does he bend forces to his will like a wizard.

 

[Nikosandros]

Here is the original thread (posted before the official 4E announcement, but after the "4adventure" countdown appeared on the WotC site).

Here is the post about the initial books (note he later corrects his translation of "magic book" to "arcane book").

Thanks!

 

[D.Shaffer]

I think that the the paragraph in R&C is pretty explicit about the bard not being an arcane class. It states that:

Consider the Warlock, who we know to be an Arcane Striker. You could say much the same about him by those descriptions.

 

[FabioMilitoPagliara]

I don't remember anything coming from the Israeli translator, but there were some rumors that supposedly originated from the Italian translators. Scott Rouse shot those down pretty quickly though.

the rumors where not from the italian translators... they were from an italian fan who misinterpreted what the italian translator said to a convention

 

[FabioMilitoPagliara]

I think that the the paragraph in R&C is pretty explicit about the bard not being an arcane class. It states that:

well from what is said in the article I get that the bard resembles the warlock only he gets in a different kind of pact, he gets an otherwordly "mecenate" that likes his music and rewards him with powerful magical songs

 

[Nikosandros]

I guess it's possible that the bard will be an arcane class after all...

Which makes me wonder. If classes with the same power source have wildly different rules, what's exactly the point of having power sources? Just so that you can have some specific power interaction like +2 defense vs arcane? With such diverse origins of the powers it would look a bit strange.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think that the the paragraph in R&C is pretty explicit about the bard not being an arcane class. It states that:

I don't know that means it won't be an arcane class. The warlock has otherworldly patrons, too, and it's an arcane class.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

the rumors where not from the italian translators... they were from an italian fan who misinterpreted what the italian translator said to a convention

You're thinking of two different sets of rumors.

 

[Nikosandros]

I don't know that means it won't be an arcane class. The warlock has otherworldly patrons, too, and it's an arcane class.

Yes, I acknowledged as much in the post right above yours... As I said I'm actually very curious about the description, both in terms of fluff and mechanics for the different power sources.