Invisibility, Stealth, and Sneak Attack.

[StreamOfTheSky]

Nah, I've just been misusing the rules for a decade!

I mean seriously...the FIRST mental image I get for Uncanny Dodge is deftly evading attacks from an unseen assailant. SO houseruling this!

EDIT; Actually, that's probably why I was mixed up. Uncanny Dodge does protect you from unseen assailants...sometimes.

It specifically mentions invisible foes as you being able to retain your dex to AC against. But if you're blinded, which mechanically should be (and with this exception basically is) the same as your foes invisible, in regards to attacking you, you would lose your dex to AC still. Because Invis and blinded don't make you flatfooted, and only invis is specifically called out in Uncanny Dodge. Yeah, don't like that. Houseruling!

 

[Friend of the Dork]

Nah, I've just been misusing the rules for a decade!

I mean seriously...the FIRST mental image I get for Uncanny Dodge is deftly evading attacks from an unseen assailant. SO houseruling this!

EDIT; Actually, that's probably why I was mixed up. Uncanny Dodge does protect you from unseen assailants...sometimes.

It specifically mentions invisible foes as you being able to retain your dex to AC against. But if you're blinded, which mechanically should be (and with this exception basically is) the same as your foes invisible, in regards to attacking you, you would lose your dex to AC still. Because Invis and blinded don't make you flatfooted, and only invis is specifically called out in Uncanny Dodge. Yeah, don't like that. Houseruling!

If you are blinded, enemies counts as invisible to you, so a blind Rogue should still retain his Uncanny Dodge. The only exception is being immobilized. Flanking still works until Im. UD of course.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

If you are blinded, enemies counts as invisible to you, so a blind Rogue should still retain his Uncanny Dodge. The only exception is being immobilized. Flanking still works until Im. UD of course.

Yep!

 

[concerro]

If she made the hide check, she can keep sniping once per turn and getting sneak attack to damage, as she'd be catching the foes flatfooted. Hiding means the enemy can't see you, just like invisibility. Thus, he is flatfooted, and you get the +2 bonus to hit and can sneak attack.

Note also that if a foe has not gotten a chance to act yet in the combat, he is flatfooted till he does so. If the Rogue wanted to just alpha strike as hard as she could, she could shoot in the surprise round (if there is one), then if she has higher initiative, she could full attack sneak attack on round 1 as well. She'd just be visible and probably in danger after that.

Flat-footed and loss of dex are not the same thing. Flat-footed is an actual condition just like being stunned or sickened, that has loss of dex as a result.
The difference is not that great, but it does matter if something has being flat-footed as a requirement.


edit: ninja'd by Patryn of Elvenshae