Ioun Stone of Toughness what do you think

[las]

Ioun Stone of Toughness: These Ioun stones (usually Light Brown in color) possess all the features of a standard ioun stone. Ioun stones of toughness give the benefite of the toughness feat when used.
Caster Level: 5th; Prerequistes: Craft Wondrous Item. the caster must have the toughness feat; Market Price: 9,000 GP; Weight: --.

What do you think? How does it look? Any ideas on how it should work?

 

[MrZoink]

Looks about right to me.

The only real issue that I see, is you have to make sure that your players don't think it's cheap way to heal. Remember to take 3 hp off their current total whenever it comes off, even if they're wounded, fully healed, or whatever.

Maybe it would just affect their maximum hp. In other words, it wouldn't actually give them any hit points when they put it on, it just affects their potential maximum.

They would still need to rest, or get a cure spell to reach that potential maximum. Not sure how you rest with a Ioun stone floating around you though. I know there's nothing which forbids it, it just doesn't seem quite right.


Edit: spelling

 

[las]

well I will have it that when its on you gain 3 HP when its off you lose 3 HP very simple.

Thow if some beats up there char then cast despel magic on them well .

 

[Draugin]

I think it's okay.
+3 hp when activated, and -3 hp if you ever lose it in any way.
It seems Diablo though (ioun stone of the tiger).

 

[Draugin]

Double post. Whops.

 

[las]

Lowered the price . Hope that helps.

 

[Anubis]

Two things.

First off, why aren't you using the modified Toughness variant yet? Everybody knows that +3 hp is paltry. With the variant I have presented multiple times, it's actually +5 hp.

Second, it's slightly too expensive. A basic feat is generally 4000 gp, 8000 gp if no item slot is taken up. As such, this item should cost the same as the one that gives the Alertness feat, which is 8000 gp.

 

[MrZoink]

First off, why aren't you using the modified Toughness variant yet? Everybody knows that +3 hp is paltry. With the variant I have presented multiple times, it's actually +5 hp.

Umm, because the +3 HP version is OFFICIAL?

No offense, but it's not fair to criticize it on that point.

That being said, I agree that +3 HP has always seemed a bit weak, except at first, maybe second level.

 

[Anubis]

Well, here are the proper fixes for the entire Toughness chain of feats.

Toughness [General]
You are tougher than normal.
Benefit: You gain +5 hit points and your "death's door" range is extended by 5.

Dwarf's Toughness [General]
You are tougher than you were before.
Prerequisites: Base Fort save bonus +5, Toughness
Benefit: You gain +10 hit points and your "death's door" range is extended by 5.

Giant's Toughness [General]
You are amazingly tough.
Prerequisites: Base Fort save bonus +8, Toughness, Dwarf's Toughness
Benefit: You gain +15 hit points and your "death's door" range is extended by 5.

Dragon's Toughness [General]
You are incredibly tough.
Prerequisites: Base Fort save bonus +11, Toughness, Dwarf's Toughness, Giant's Toughness
Benefit: You gain +20 hit points and your "death's door" range is extended by 5.

Epic Toughness [Epic]
You are preternaturally tough.
Prerequisites: Toughness, Dwarf's Toughness, Giant's Toughness, Dragon's Toughness
Benefit: You gain +25 hit points and your "death's door" range is extended by 10.

 

[MrZoink]

Looks nice. I need to run those past my DM.
Thanks.